The problems of Krysyy, Aikar and how EMC is run.

Not quite.
It's some actually useful stuff, some of what you said, and some inane arguing.
Meanwhile, I'm chilling.

To all those who say that people who don't like it can "just leave",
It's really not that simple. people have put money into this server, and I'm not just talking about a one time expense for a $10 gold voucher, I know of two players who have had gold supporterships for nearly 5 years iirc. there is a player who wishes to remain unnamed, but has put over 100 days of playtime into smp1 alone, not hours, days. its really not "easier than it sounds" for these people to leave. these people deserve a say in this matter. I'm not just talking about our extreme EMC members though, also us little guys, we have all put hours apon hours into this server, and I'd go as far as to say that anyone who has bought an object that costs money to get into the game from another player is a supporter, they are furthering that market and bringing in more profit for the server. how about people like benthebobjr, he has 5 accounts, and he has bought diamond for everyone of them, he didn't have 5 accs when he started out at emc, he got them all because of emc. there are also numerous people who have 10+ accs, I'd assume mostly because of EMC. It's not easy for these people to leave, and we have worked hard to make EMC a better place, we deserve a say, these people have the obligation, nay, the right to ask for change when conflict arises, not just throw in the towel and say "Time to find a new server". This server is more than just an object that should be considered "terminal" and abandoned the second conflict arises, It's really not that simple people, it's really not.

And this is the tragic situation.
The more you are emotionally and financially committed to this server, the harder it is to leave.
Unfortunately, this server is not in a good place. I abandoned it because it did not bring me satisfaction. However. I did not have a significant commitment to this server in any way. This made it easy to be detached. Simple.
It is not that simple for many people.

Nobody is saying to leave the server, we were all trying to come up with suggestions to fix it. People were, however, saying to leave the thread, but that was because people were making unhelpful, edgy, or otherwise personal comments, especially those skip to the end of the thread without reading the last few pages. We wanted to keep things on topic exactly because we DON'T want to see people leaving.

Dab on em haters

Hi Dr. Chocolate, you may not recognize me, but it's the old "IsaacNorman" here.

Your post has a lot of validity and truth to it. I remember 3-4 years ago when you were banned, then, they unbanned you. Wow, time does fly, yeah?

Anyways, I agree with what you said here:

A good amount of us are passionate enough to try and improve things, but... at the end of the day, it's out of our control and the way things happen is the way things happen. We can try to "save EMC" all we can, but a lot of us know that it's nothing like it was many years ago.

To be honest, I'm going to take what you said to heart, because I truly never thought of it that way until you said it. Thanks for speaking to me at a much lower level than I expected anyone to.

I must admit... EMC is a monument in my adolescence and to see it different from when i was growing up is saddening. With that being said I still find myself thinking of the next great deal I am going to find through friends so that i can hoarde it for my next project that no doubt will never happen, and if it does wont be for months and months

EMC has changed, life changes over time. EMC is a large part of my childhood and while its still online, so will I.

EMC was and is my online home. I am not proud of the many things I have done and said while I have been here for the last 7 1/2 years and I am sorry about that... I totally would take it all back if I could..

With this all being said, to further talk about how its dying will not do anything but make more EMC veterans and newbies alike distance themselves from the server.

My friends, lets try to focus on curating what is left of our childhoods (for a lot of us at least) and try to provide the endless amounts of fun and friendship that the original EMC once gave us, rather than bringing up the current community’s blemishes.

<3 Faded

Lol nice one extendingskies, got me there lol.

(I cant quote your post which quoted two posts)

This. I don't even know how we ended up here, from the community we had not 2-3 years ago.

Bad Luck.
So much bad luck.

My best guess is age and a lot of built up animosity that was never concluded

The question is, is that possible?
Perhaps.
Perhaps not.
I am unwilling to provide an answer.

ayo 420

how is this still going on?

I think we all have opinions on how EMC is still alive or dying and you are jumping ship but that doesn't mean the staff don't hear what we are saying.

Oh, they sure hear.
The question is whether what they do will avert what is coming.

This is the Krysyy I know, and yes Staff talk about staff and players, sometimes not in such a nice way but if someone irritates you to breaking point your not going to talk about them in a great way.

Krysyy and staff have done a great job over the years, and it's not always been easy, I doubt there is anyone who has not given someone else a hard time and frustrated them or been frustrated by them. We are human and its our nature, let us all be more understanding and tolerant of each other for our good and not so good points.

I got tired of trying to read all of this; i made it to page 9 after about 2 hours of reading.

What i haven't seen yet (and if this was addressed, then just skip my post) is about the events // EMC being quiet thing.

please note i could be wrong in what i'm saying. I'm just trying to find solutions.

I think a big issue here is that the server's staff events have been too saturated. If we could move the focus of events to more player-hosted than staff events rather than vice versa, perhaps the events calendar can be saved. I haven't really thought into the specifics of it all, but we really need a change in what events are happening. Player hosted events are just really hard to get a turnout with the systems we have in place. hence why i've only ever tried to do one and haven't tried since.

I'm not going to fully express more of my opinions because i'm a month late to all of this and i really don't feel like reading through the other 13 pages (244 messages) of millimeter wide characters all slapped together with thousands of keystrokes just to check if a sentence or two of it all was similar to my thoughts.

In case you're interested, i'm neutral on this whole thing, i think both sides have made many mistakes, i'm worried for Krysyy on her massive workload and replacing her will not fix that, and i think some kind of Excel, Trello, or Monday.com spreadsheet thing would be extremely beneficial to the playerbase in knowing exactly where the development is at this point in time. Yeah it'd be a pain in the ass to set up, but we need a pain-in-the-ass solution to get us out of the mess we're in.

also, people like MoreMoople and chickeneer deserve so much more kudos than what they're getting for their work on EMC. Seriously, the staff are all madlads.
(Sin Project - Drugs intensifies in the background)

Yes, this has been brought up.
And I would agree with your general comment about the player events needing some love and care.
Kryssy replied that they were working on an idea, but there have been no updates since then.

Here is the link to the discussion thread about improvements and suggestions which is a much shorter read
https://empireminecraft.com/threads/community-and-staff-discussion-thread.81347/

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