[RULES] Update to Chat Limits

Discussion in 'Empire News' started by Krysyy, Dec 29, 2016.

  1. I'm really glad to see this. +1!
  2. Your logic doesn't make sense...You want the people swearing to choose if their words are filtered to the people that don't want swearing?
  3. What I think they're asking is, that chats containing those words are allowed to be sent through. People that have it set such that they can see those phrases see the chat. Those that don't, don't. The only thing I disagree with is having it on by default (could have read that wrong, but that's what I understood it to say).
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  4. Thou it will not necessarilly be PG(or what ever the new name of the rating is) since a kid can easily turn it off...
  5. I wasn't approving of the suggestion, just explaining. :)
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  6. If what you say was their original intention, the filter does not work that way and it would take a fair bit of code to change that. We aren't interested in helping players see curse words over the other features we actually want to code, so in short, it's likely not happening.
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  7. I'll take that as a definite no go. I guess the easiest way to break it down would be something similar to that popular mmorpg game, how they give the ability to those to turn on/off their own filter.

    Thanks for explaining my horribly written comment, haha!

    Yeah, I guess that would be an issue.. silly idea.
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  8. I've never heard "Damn" in a Disney movie. Maybe "If it wouldn't be said in Shrek" lol
    Oh wait, Deadpool is technically a Disney movie... Maybe clarify the rules a bit lol
  9. Deadpool is a MARVEL movie, a sub-company of Disney. If it wouldn't be played on the Disney Channel, then it doesn't apply.
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  10. I was just joking...
  11. I know. I'm clarifying for those that may read your comment and wonder the same thing seriously.
  12. I do have to say I like the fact that we can stretch out our sentences a little more in chat now. Good job to whoever thought that was a good idea and then being able to implement it. Thanks a bunch.
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  13. That was mojang. The entire game of minecraft updated that aspect.
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  14. That is actually my favourite 1.11 feature!
  15. +1. I have no problem being able to express myself without using language that might offend others. If someone can't do that I think they need to consider what about them makes them feel they have a need to use potentially offensive language.
  16. What your doing is a great thing!:) There probably are young children under the age of 10 that play EMC regularly, and saying bad words in front of them may put a bad influence on them. And yes, there are kids out there like me who have known these words before age 7 and that shouldn't be happening. kids these days are getting put under a bad influence due to social networks with profane language. besides! this is emc, a family friendly server! which should be safe for all ages!:p

    I know a lot of teens will not agree with this but, I am a 13 year old, and I totally agree with this!
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  17. Perhaps it is because English is my second language, but I don't entirely understand what's so wrong about those two words. Could someone perhaps explain that to me?

    For the rest, I don't really mind this filter, I think it's good, even if only talking with people "old enough" for "bad words", to try to keep yourself within these limits. :)
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  18. Essentially, various words that refer to more "taboo" subjects have become considered swear words. Many words referring to genitalia or sex for example. In this case, most people would consider feces to be gross, making the word "shit" become more inappropriate to say. Similarly, a person's rear falls under this category. It's just how words have evolved in english i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  19. About filtering on the recipient side -

    Actually, I think it wouldn't need a big change at all to switch from filtering when sending to filtering when receiving - and so it would be easily configurable.

    I dislike cussing, but I would personally turn the filter off - not in order to see cussing, but to avoid the problems with the filter, to avoid it disrupting the communication.

    Instead of going further in hard-enforcing chat rules by disallowing messages, I'd suggest to implement warnings, something like

    "Warning: Your message was not send due to filer. Please resend to bypass filter if your message follows chat rules."

    This would also help in cases where you accidentally send something to town or to local chat and then the filter prevents you to send the same message to a person privately.

    IMO, private messages should not be filtered at all, or the filter should be opt-in, because nobody is forced to communicate with any distinct person. PM is based on mutual agreement. Perhaps an option /ignoreprivate <IGN> (ignore private messages from IGN) would make this even easier.
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  20. Here's an idea how to easily implement configurable filtering:

    - Filter stays where it is now, it checks the message, but instead of blocking it, it just flags it
    - On receiver side, a very simple filter blocks flagged messages - this part is configurable
    - It could even have few levels

    /ps chatfilter off - see and feel everything
    /ps chatfilter 13
    /ps chatfilter 10
    /ps chatfilter kindergarten - block most, but rewrite "shit" into "poop" and "ass" into "mule" :D
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