Macros/Keybinds/Autoclickers Survey Community Discussion

AFK alternatives for being at computer but minecraft minimised or not paying attention to.
Moved to background
Not in focus
Out of sight
Attention elsewhere


Also AFK could mean your account is away from keyboard (I.e. your keyboard entries have no effect in game and require you to make minecraft the active window before they do)

Thanks.

Yes:

And (in the case that my recent suggestion wouldn't be accepted):

1- could you be more specific what cps means. I know it means clicks per second, but:
A- if referring to crafting
— means 4 stacks of wood can be moved and the 5th click means obtaining 64 crafting tables
B- against mobs, they arent really usefull of 1.9 fast clicks get less dmg, so dont see a use..

2- +1

3- seems fine to me right now (I use thta custom coded for emc villager trading mod, so it seems fine)

4- I feel that is perfect



@people interested in my opinion about the afk term dilemma you were having.(@607 @tomvsnwijnen @jelle @krysyy)

The /away or /afk system is placed, so if a server is full, it kicks in active players to allows for new players to join. (It has other uses but that is the main one)

This system is triggered by not being actively interacting on EMC. Basically idling, or performing the same clicking for extended periods of time. (Auto mining also triggers it after some time, as the system does not see as mining the same block as being active). It is also triggered by typing the /away command yourself, which is the player giving a courtesy to the server so other players can join if they want to.

But, the away system can be circumvented with some macros, so the term AFK has a more wide meaning(which to me is correct) because it actions which can be automated, that are counted as active events. Some examples are dying, striking a mob, or placing a command/entering text.

So, to me, the term “away”, referring to the away system, does not enclose head farming(auto respawn), or mob auras(or automated clickers), but since. No-AFK does, because it strictly suggests that you should be paying attention to the game window.

Now, what you are doing within the 3 minute you have to respond, im sure Krysyy does not care what you are doing (let it be homework, watching a video or watching your character auto-mine) except that you are able respond withing that time frame (in a legitimate way(no chat bots))

i think that being afk and still having your account doing stuff is not right cause what if people just went to work and left their computers running to spam resources it would not be fair to those of us who try to play honestly and gather stuff with effort

What you describe is a bannable/kicksble offense already

I always have seen AFK as “away from immediate keyboard input” so +1 to your definition

Yes, true. An issue that we're having is that Krysyy is sometimes, even in the rules, talking about 'afk' when she doesn't mean it.

I haven't given my opinion on this yet, as I'm pretty sure Krysyy said we'd discuss it later... but I think the term 'afk' should continue to be used, and should actually mean afk. So someone can play EMC while reading Great Expectations, or watching My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

AFK means Away from keyboard.. Meaning you are not sitting down in your chair while looking at your screen, is it that difficult to define?

well i think it would be like 10 minutes if they don't respond after that then i assume they are afk

Tbh, that's not how most people interpret it. To most people, AFK simply means you're not paying attention to the game. So for example, sitting at your computer but with your browser open on top of your Minecraft window to most people means you're afk.

Though, imo the best term to describe this is just simple "Away" - doesn't specify keyboard or user location, just that they are away from the game itself. This is actually the term used in-game already, as well.

Edit: Just wanted to add I wasn't trying to reply directly to you Otus, just yours was the most recent post on the topic so I used it.

yes i agree

yeah like i can understand being away for stuff like taking care of a baby or going to the bathroom but if you off for longer than 10-15 minutes thats a little to long so that should be considered afk at that point

I don't understand where people get the idea that current macro users have incredible advantages. If someone does, I hate to say it, but I think they are very much bending the current macro rules.

I've been using them more frequently and following the defined rules closely enough to taste them. I've not used them in my time in EMC much before now as far as game play goes and... It feels no different than when I didn't use them. Villager trading massive amounts of items still takes forever. Mining takes the same length of time. Crafting isn't any faster since you might as well just use the book....

I still produce the same amount of items I did before macros.

The only reason I use them is being while it is the same speed it requires less clicking/movement. My right hand hates me for all the gaming I do, to the point where repetitive clicking/crafting starts to hurt. I could keep doing it by hand yes and if I didn't have macros, I probably would because I have no self control but it cuts down on the pain big time.

If someone is going things far more rapidly than a normal player then I think they might be misunderstanding something...

Hi Krysyy, I asked 2 questions. Can you please answer them? [bitter]Not much point in creating a discussion thread if you skip half of the questions.[/bitter]

Thank you.

(personal opinion as a player)

TNT duping? I don't find that interesting at all. And I certainly don't want that on EMC.

I vote NO to duping. Especially for dragon eggs and shulker shells.

If this is in reference to the two items I quoted above, then all I can respond with is "well said".

The term technical minecrafter here is probably inaccurate. At the very least it's imprecise. I'd probably consider myself a technical player and I'm very comfortable with the rules on EMC and our ability to suggest changes.

(personal opinion as player)

When I step away, maybe to change my baby, get a drink, whatever, I stop what I'm doing with EMC. That means pausing any macros. Often it means hiding in a dirt hole away from monsters.

So in that situation 3-minutes seems generous. After all any chat sent to me isn't going to remain on screen after 3-minutes.

If I stepped away and left a macro interacting with the world, isn't this a rule violation already? I like the idea of having a short grace period (3-minutes) as a convenience. And personally if I ended up being away longer than I expected, and found myself kicked from the server, I wouldn't mind. After all I was (accidentally) doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing.

So in my opinion 3-minutes is more than enough for both cases. If I found myself repeatedly being kicked then I'd probably just acknowledge that I'm going away for longer than I realize, and shut off the macros the next time I go.

IRL If you try to buy age ristricted stuff you may be required to prove your age, if you can’t prove your age it is assumed you are not of sufficient age to purchase. Purchase is refused for being underaged even if you are actually old enough.

EMC If wish to use an AFK restricted mod you may be required to prove you are not AFK, if you don’t prove you are not AFK it is assumed you are AFK. You will be kicked for being AFK even if you are not.

EDIT- what I am trying to say is we can’t tell if you are sat at the keyboard but not noticing the afk checks or left your computer to go to school. So the afk rule should cover both.