[DEBATE] Presidential Election - 2016 (closing Nov 22)

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by Erektus, Sep 9, 2015.

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Donald Trump (R) 138 vote(s) 50.0%
Hillary Clinton (D) 138 vote(s) 50.0%
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  1. Did you hear Trump's speech on the first day of his campaign last summer? Rapists, drug dealers, and whatnot?

    Mexicans don't think too hot about him. I guess the Donald Trump Piñatas are seen as a worshiping ritual?

    http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37228515

    (I guess piñatas since summer 2015 are more or less a way that us Mexicans can take a break from our drug-dealing, rapist lives to smash the life out of Donald Trump, since we can't do it in real life. It helps us relieve stress...) - - - Please notice my sarcasm, I don't do any of that, but I know mexicans down in Mexico probably think/feel that. Maybe not all, but I'm quite sure it's enough that that idea is true.
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  2. I saw the BBC news special where a British reporter talked to the Mexican president, and yes, that is exactly what he said, "We're not paying for that F'n wall". Wish I could find the video on BBC's website... :\
  3. Hillary's been diagnosed with pneumonia...

    I hope this doesn't sway the election in favor of Trump...
  4. That is amazing. Did you get this from fox news? Watching every credible news source and see absolutely nothing that says pneumonia. It is always hilarious when stuff is made up. About either side.
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  5. He won't have to. The wall will take years to build, it will cost more than even the US could ever afford, and it'd be useless anyway. Donald knows this, he's just trying to incite reaction and media attention - if people actually think he's going to build a wall, with all due respect, they're idiots.

    He even cites the Great Wall of China as what he's modelling his own wall off, calling it things like a success. He doesn't seem to realise that it was built over - from what I can remember - a millennia, and didn't even work anyway.
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  6. You are correct. He is a wealthy man making up lies, pandering to the less affluent and uneducated. To individuals like this there needs to be an object of their anger, per say an enemy, that has caused them not to have what others with money and affluence have. Certainly in the 1930's Germany it was the Jewish people. Currently in the US for a portion of the population it is people from Mexico. The truth of the mater is that individuals from Mexico are here to work hard and try to build a better life for them an their families. Trump's supporters resent that people from Mexico are willing to work much harder than them for the same pay. They don't want the competition, they don't want to be educated, but they want to have all the benefits without working for them. Are they right or wrong? That is up to you to decide.
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  7. I like politics but I'd like to see the presidency become a reality tv show too.
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  8. Kind reminder that while it's okay to insult the opponents, it is NOT okay to insult their supporters. Please keep this in mind for your future posts or this thread will be closed.
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  9. I thought it wasnt allowed to insult anyone +/
  10. No one has any intake on Clinton's current health issue?

    I'm legitimately concerned for her, as I am Trump. They're both very old and I don't recall either of them releasing any medical/health details; which scares me a bit, especially when I see this happening to Clinton right now... (She has my best thoughts right now while she recovers.)
  11. Blame EMC's notifications for me not every getting this message in my inbox; here are your sources:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...2b1b0c-784d-11e6-bd86-b7bbd53d2b5d_story.html

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-clinton-health-20160911-snap-story.html

    (This was just breaking news, which is why I only have 2, Windows 10 news doesn't have more than just that right now.)
  12. It is against the rules to insult an individual responding on the forums. I was addressing a group related to supporters of Trump that she felt I was insulting. Or at least walking a fine line of insulting. It is factual that on a whole Trump supporters are less educated.
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  13. I had not heard this. I saw the Hillary incident on the news last night but non of the major news networks mentioned pneumonia. The Washington Post can be questionable. They say it came from her doctor. Which is hugely questionable as there are very strict laws related to releasing protected health information in the US. Did the doctor decide to release this information and take the risk of being sued or losing his license? Doubtful. But there is no doubt that Hillary did have an "incident" and even though it is being tried to be explained off (she didn't go to the hospital) it is a bit concerning I will have to agree. I do think that I would be exhausted if I tried to keep up her pace during the election. And I am a lot younger than her. A Lot. She had been on her feet for 2 hours during the 9/11 memorial. So, personally, I'm not ready to jump to any conclusions just yet.
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  14. Saw the pneumonia reported this morning. The Post was correct. Not necessarily important but could be. I do doubt that anyone that was going to vote for Hillary would vote for Trump due to concerns about her health. Just as I would doubt any Trump supporter would vote for Hillary regardless of anything that would come out about his health. They are the oldest candidates in history. Health issues for both is not surprising. It does once again open up transparency issues for her though.
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  15. Even-though I'm not American so have no vote, where's the Green and Libertarian choices in this thread?!
  16. One of those supporters reported you because they were insulted by your statement. Once a report came in, I made that post. This is now your second warning. Please keep your political statements in this thread about the opponents and not their supporters.

    As for your 'factual' statement, be careful about using these arguments. Statistics are as bias as the person behind the polls. When you have spare time one day, look up how the same 'facts' can be used in multiple ways and still remain truthful, yet support opposite arguments.
  17. I will be more cautious in the future, thank you Krysyy. I would like to apologize to whom I offended. What I said was a generalization and certainly does not apply to all supporters of Trump, nor is it a characteristic of only individuals that support Trump.
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  18. Can't win. It's a two party system.
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  19. They're still a choice and should be represented in the poll.
  20. Well, the poll was made when there were still other candidates, it was more of a "what if this were to be the two to choose from, who would you choose" as they were the most hated. And now they seem to be the only two people that could possibly win.
    By the way, I notice Clinton is pulling ahead of Trump in the poll. They were perfectly even for a while.
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