Bye EMC - Going to be way Less Active!

Wow, just wow. Some of the comments. Finch, good luck in whatever you do from here on out. I know that you will have plenty of time to get the fog just right =)
I was taken aback by some of the comments on this thread. I won't sit here and point them out, I feel that's petty. I will say that before you comment, just think for a minute how you might feel if the shoe were on the other foot. Finch did what she did, that's on her. The easiest thing to do is simply wish "good luck" and move on, or better yet don't say anything at all. (This does not go for staff, I know my place. =P)

I agree. It's extremely upsetting.

IMHO no matter how much everyone is upset, others will not change their comments/opinions. It's just causing more drama. Again: not supporting the commentary, just pointing out a valid point here.

You do have a point. Sadly, some people find that out the hard way - and I did from some of the comments on that thread of mine.

There's a difference between giving constructive criticism and being rude. That adage doesn't say "don't give constructive criticism" it just says "if you can only say rude things, keep your mouth shut."

I'm just sorry to see people not being great to each other, but it is a touchy subject, so something like this was bound to happen eventually. Seriously though, the world is a beautiful wide place, we should all be more welcoming of each others differences in opinion. Even if we can't agree with each other we can at least refrain from throwing shade and rustling up drama. This whole episode is very disappointing for me, I had thought our community was better than this

Do you have proof?

I haven't seen any. I've asked for some and got told she can't be bothered finding it because the files are too big. I asked for a screenshot of these files in the explorer window with their file sizes shown, then got told she doesn't need to prove anything. I said why I thought evidence should have been provided, and had the reply deleted, ignored, just after being labelled 'rude' when I approached the subject in what I thought was a respectful manner - and I'm sorry if I didn't. Even the staff were saying there was nothing given to work with on these claims, and they'd help solve the issue if more could be provided.

I was also told that were was 'lots of evidence posted before', but was not pointed in the direction where this evidence was posted, even after I asked (I believe she called me rude).

I'll cede that my 'lol' comment here wasn't respectful or mature, but honestly I'm sick of seeing her post stuff like this. I'm sick of seeing her claim she's getting bullied when she seems to take far too much to heart. I'm sick of seeing her say she's getting bullied when there are so many means to make that stop. I'm sick of the community being labelled as anti-LGBTQ when the vast majority of people here are accepting and friendly just because they were 'rude' to her. I'm sick of her saying that 'you can see who likes to cause drama' on a thread when she is actively trying to create some.

If you're gay, bi, straight, trans, queer, black, white, Asian, African, European, American, I welcome you into this community with opens arms. I don't care what you look like, the sex you're sexually and/or romantically attracted to, your ethnicity, or your race - you're welcome here. I literally couldn't care less, and if you're from a different ethnicity and culture or whatever I'd love to learn about it - one of my many activities I love to do with my Serbian friend is listening to her country's music, learning their dances (even as a joke), learning about their holidays, and their history.

But when you start trying to instigate drama, making wild claims about people with nothing to back them up with, complain about how you're being bullied constantly but not using the means provided to stop it, or be rude to people and have them comment back only for you to call them something because they disagreed with you, or saying something like 'you don't deserve my builds' which is quite an egotistical thing to say, or accusing someone of not liking LGBTQ people because they asked the simple question of 'can my LGBT story be fictional?', that's when you need to be called out.

I agree with you on your first part but people will always like or not like things, have opinions, and changing things they believe strongly or adamant about is hard and they will argue why they believe it. There are somethings I want to argue about in this thread but Im trying my best to not cause anymore drama so I know why some of these people have strong opinions on this specific topic.

I have yet to see proof for that. Everything I've ever been accused of "bullying" her with has not been actual bullying, but instead a way to try and guilt me into doing something beneficial to her by calling me homophobic.

Thank you for not causing drama. I think the drama is WAY more than enough as it is, and peace is all I want for everyone, but sadly some people can't remember the saying "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all.". I believe (if I recall correctly) it even mentions that saying somewhere in a sub-addendum of the EMC rules wiki page.

If you truly love something, someone being rude or saying mean things wouldn't stop your builds. Why should you put time and effort into something if people are not nice to the one doing it? Well, what about those who aren't rude and are nice. You leaving isn't going to solve anything, instead you're running from those people instead of dealing with them.

It's not hard to ignore someone, if someone says mean things to you in game screenshot it and PM an admin about it. Then /ignore (username) it takes 15 seconds and can solve a problem.

The comments on this thread aren't meant to drive you away (at least mine aren't) they're meant to show you that not everyone in this world will be "nice" to you, because they don't have to be nice to you. There's no rule in life saying, be nice to everyone. Those being mean to you, just like you, are free to speak their opinion, and just like you, they are free to ignore any retort or backlash.

Just like, should you choose, you can ignore my advice when I tell you this: Leaving won't solve anything, you're leaving something you love doing and in a community where there are those who do think that you make this place better over worse, just because a group of people are rude to you.

For the record I don't laugh at this, nor do I not take it seriously. But if you're going to put yourself out there, there will be people that will disagree with you, almost exclusively, because you aren't their cup of tea. If you really wanna show EMC that you're better than those making fun of you or calling you names, or saying disgusting things, stay and stick it out. Make it a mission to show them that you don't care what they say, because in the end they're typing to you and talking through a microphone. Nothing they say changes who you are, be that a good or bad thing.

This is a topic, that I try and avoid as much as possible just because, someone is definitely going to get their feelings hurt. Bullying is wrong, wrong, it's wrong I can not stress that enough. However, reporting is the best way to have it fixed. I never realized that you would choose to leave based on the opinions of others. Finch I have known you a long time and I've never known you to give up. But I think and again I adore you as a friend, so understand I say this as a loving person, I think you could've done this in a totally different manner. I get bullied a lot even as an adult, because of my religious views, I'm an open minded person, but I am Christian. With that being said you know I accept everyone for who and what they are. But one thing that I know from being what I am, I know what it's like t be bullied, and pushed into a corner. I have been cursed, beat up, had rotten meat thrown at me, I was a suicide survivor in high school. The point is, I am a stronger person for it. I defeated my bullies in a healthy way through forgiving them and moving on. You don't forgive someone for them, you do it for yourself. You have to in order to set yourself free of the pain and torment they've caused you.

I don't preach, love, peace, and kindness because I think it gets attention or cool. I do it because you may never know what someone is going through. I think highly of you but these forum posts have literally shocked me. There's a lot of finger pointing and drama where there doesn't need to be. I get you want to be heard and you want light shed on the ones that hurt you. But the best way is to give the proof you have to the staff and let them handle it. I have spoken with staff members on issues that upset me and I assure you they will never turn you away. They're amazing people. Again, I am not making excuses nor condoning what others have done to you. But this is a little over the top. People feel as if this is pushing a topic in their face, that they may not be ready to speak about yet. This topic makes lots of people uncomfortable. And it does because it's so controversial. Also, like some have mentioned, there are children that play on EMC. My daughter is one of them, she is 10. This would all confuse her so badly. I think that it definitely needs to be spoke about more privately if it must be spoke about. Again no offense my friend. I am thinking as a Mother in this instance. I get why some older ones may think this way.

Also it was mentioned we play this game to get away from the world. I agree. I am emotionally exhausted from the world news of today. I play EMC to build interact and have fun. So I think some people aren't meaning to be as rude as they are, they just are tired of seeing it at every single turn. I hope that I don't loose you as a friend. You're a fabulous person inside and out! I hope that you decide to do what helps you the most! I am always here.

Skitz

yet you continue to ALSO cause drama

Is this what you are referring to?

Oh noes! He broke out the rule book!

I mean I was just clarifying is that something wrong to do?
We all can do it if we wanted to.

Yes.

no chocolate is just stuck on shade mode dont mind him