Empire Status Update - 1/27/14

Discussion in 'Empire News' started by Aikar, Jan 27, 2014.

  1. Currently everyone has the same chance at winning mob arena, just some people try harder than others, its all about effort.
    Are you saying I'm terrible D:
  2. Lol no, just saw it in there and couldn't resist commenting. :p
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  3. I just do not see what is bad about 2 rounds or mob arenas.
    1. You bring your own armor and everything for one (Winner gets all loot)
    2. Everybody has an equal chance of winning with the same items (Winner gets something)
  4. jkjkjk :p
    Ideal mob arena:
    Everyone brings own gear, winner takes all
    I don't see how that is unfair to anyone, everyone has the same access to items /:
  5. Since Mob arena started back up recently. I'm sure business has picked up on god gear *looks at stores that sell the gear right near mobarena*. Having no one needing the gear would probably hurt those stores again.
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  6. Funnily enough, that is exactly whats planned.
    Either as a replacement, or alongside it.
    Look here http://track.empire.us/issue/CON-3
    Honestly, that isn't quite true is it?
    Eventually, it becomes a battle of who has the most God Armour and Enchanted Apples, skill goes right out the window. Like todays Mob Arena, eventually it became run-away-from-mobs-and-tank-hits-until-the-other-guy-dies arena.
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  7. That's my shop!
    Everyone can get god armor, some people just don't. Like I said, if you're unprepared don't play.
  8. I personally would love a Economic Update, it's just inflation might not be a good thing to do because it already is substantial. The AFK thing would be good to see, it would make prices go up instead of down, but that's just my opinion.
    What can you do...?
    I think that some of the following would benefit most people:
    • Item Sets (buying a set of armor, tools, such things)
    • Promo Items Vs. Special Items
      • Promo Items are great, but most are kept around in vaults and are mainly a money maker for people looking for quick cash. What we need is more items like from the Survival Update, where people actually use them, AKA Special Items. This would recreate the market, and people would have greater and higher benefits looking and gathering materials themselves.
    • Shops in the Wild would be easy to do, and would likely be helpful for people.
    • Online Market Place AND Shop with commands (as seen in your old economy thread :p)
    • Bulk Item Buying
      • Make Items go into your vault when inventory is full (no extra fee.)
    Some of these ideas are simple, others not so much, and not all of them have to do with Economic benefits. Until we get more playing styles, we won't see more economic growth.
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  9. As somebody who competed purely with a stick today, what about playing for fun?

    And if you ask me, the use of God Armour widens the field far too much, you have some players going in with 3/4 sets of the stuff, so they last far too long compared to somebody who can only get Iron gear.
    I'd say we need to restrict players to Enchanted Iron max, so the competition is a lot closer.
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  10. No.
    God armor is not expensive, and if you can't afford save up. There's no need for restrictions.
    I use 4 sets of god armor, 1/2 stack god apples and 1/2 stack reg gold apples, and potions. How is that overpowered? It still gives other a chance.
    If you want to play for fun the knock yourself out - play for fun.
  11. yesterday on emc6 there was at least 20/30 new people joining.
  12. 1.8 if kept the same with enchanting, repairing, and villager trades will make obtaining godgear/enchants way too easy imo. I can see everyone running around in godgear and selling them for just diamond cost. So either way, as long as the forced gear in mob arena happens after 1.8 - if kept the same as the screenshot- can't see it really hurting. Because 1.8 -if kept same- will probably kill the enchant godgear businesses any way.
  13. If I am to live in a world where 4 sets of God Armour is fair to one set of regular armour, I guess that's fine.

    Like it or not, the changes are going to happen, things will be a lot fairer, and people will be on the same grounds, so skills takes over. If you are so great at MA, then you show your skills there also :) Not just have the armour tank it all. In the words of Aikar himself;
  14. also I can have some fun playing in a mobarena with nothing to lose lol so don't think I fighting for not having a forced free gear mob arena. I believe having both would be great :D
  15. I would like to see inflation in the economy. That would be a fun sight
  16. I'd just like to throw in something about EMC's mobarena.

    EMC's mobarena is unique, because it requires not only strategy inside of the arena, but also requires you to strategically plan out exactly what you will use your precious inventory slots on. This obviously is exciting to many people, as the strategic possibilities are endless, and different people have different strategies. Some people like to use loads of golden apples, others prefer shiny flesh, and others just avoid mobs really well. Some people use full Protection IV, Unbreaking III armor, others vary it and put Blast Protection IV on a piece or two. Now, despite all these differences, all these people win every once in a while, since there is no one "god strategy". People just come up with their personal preferences, and get in and do their thing.

    If EMC's mobarenas were all setup so everyone had exactly the same items, or only had a choice between few presets, I doubt people would find it as exciting as the regular mobarena happening right now. I mean, sure, it gives everyone an equal chance, but then people wouldn't be as attracted to doing it, because everyone would have a pretty much equal chance. The regular mobarenas are liked more because you can give yourself an edge over others through preparation, and strategy. So, instead of it being a 1/40 chance of winning, you can make it so it's a 1/4 chance of winning, by preparing more.

    Just my 2 cents about what people's opinions are about the regular mobarenas, and why they are liked so much. My opinion might be a bit biased, since I play quite a bit, along with a lot of my friends. I'm not completely against the idea either, I think it could be fun, and a better way to get everyone involved in the event, but isn't that what the zombie maze event is for? Isn't that what the firefloor events are for? Isn't that what the drop parties are for? Mobarenas were always one of the only events that could be played in this specific way.
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  17. Which is why I wish to have their idea for a Mob arena and the current mob arena. Fun for both kinds of people.
  18. Can't we just have both? A chance round and a strategy round?
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  19. Finally, good to see smp3 isn't dead..... for now....
  20. Now that the servers are starting to be full, it will probably 1-2 years until smp10.