Comments on Profile Post by Otus_NigRum

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  2. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    If the Catholic church didn't exist Canada probably wouldn't have an entire First Nation population who were stripped of their traditions and culture. I'm not surprised a bunch of kings in the 16th centuries left the Catholic church for Protestantism either.
    Mar 4, 2019
  3. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    donald trump is a poisionous, vile radical figure
    Mar 4, 2019
  4. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    I'm talking about the corrupt Catholic church here, and trump is presbyterian lol
    Mar 4, 2019
  5. FadedMartian
    Mar 4, 2019
  6. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    i got confused
    Mar 4, 2019
  7. 607
    607
    I recall writing a post on EMC before about why it's good to be radical. Let me see if I can find it.
    Mar 5, 2019
  8. 607
    Mar 5, 2019
  9. 607
    607
    By the way, faith is not the only thing one can be radical about. My ex-Latin teacher, who is still a friend of mine, isn't religious. However, she is radical: she doesn't eat animal products in any circumstances, and heavily protests against meat and animal abuse where appropriate.
    Mar 5, 2019
  10. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    We're talking about radical religion, not radical vegans. Radical Religion as in ruining everyone's culture and tradition, killing those who do not believe and basically ruining everything.
    Mar 5, 2019
  11. 607
    607
    "Radical Religion as in ruining everyone's culture and tradition, killing those who do not believe and basically ruining everything."
    ... Where did you get thát definition from?!?
    Mar 5, 2019
  12. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    Jesuits during the colonialism era, ruining First Nation culture, wiping out 90% of the population with disease, as well as forcing Native kids into boarding schools, they would return home forgetting their entire language and culture they left with.
    Mar 5, 2019
  13. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    ISIS in the middle east, an Islamic group, doesn't need to be explained either. The Catholic Church also burned people for "being witches" even though they were not, and they even tried to exterminate Martin Luther for wanting the bible to be read by everyone, and wanting a religion where it isn't run by popes and bishops.
    Mar 5, 2019
  14. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    There's so much I could say, but the Catholic Church is the complete opposite of what Christianity should be. I don't mean all Catholics though, but the people who run the show.
    Mar 5, 2019
  15. 607
    607
    Yeah. That's sad.
    However, it's not relevant to being radical. If the Catholic Church would be the complete opposite of what Christianity should be, then obviously they aren't radically Christian.
    Mar 5, 2019
  16. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    that was a different definition of the word we were not referring to...
    Mar 5, 2019
  17. 607
    607
    Please try to find that definition. I really hope that you're mistaken, and this new definition hasn't really sneaked into reliable dictionaries...
    Mar 5, 2019
  18. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    Mar 5, 2019
  19. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    look at 3C.
    Mar 5, 2019
  20. 607
    607
    Thanks. "associated with political views, practices, and policies of extreme change" Hm, I wouldn't quite agree with that, but as a modern dictionary, I suppose it is a good description.
    However, this still doesn't say anything about "ruining everyone's culture" and "killing those who do not believe". (Phew!)
    Mar 5, 2019
  21. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    .. ISIS is a perfect example. So is every other of the countless terrorist groups in the Middle East...
    Mar 5, 2019
  22. SoulPunisher
    SoulPunisher
    And most pro-UK people in Northern Ireland.
    Mar 5, 2019
  23. 607
    607
    I don't get what you mean by examples. :P You can't just make up an arbitrary meaning for a word that's already got several etymological meanings...
    Mar 5, 2019
  24. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    Obviously not... Jesus how haven't you heard of these terrorist groups
    Mar 5, 2019
  25. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    Radical change require radical means.
    Mar 5, 2019
  26. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    that type of radicalism is not welcomed a single bit by normal people.
    Mar 5, 2019
  27. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    607 is known for creating discussion on what english words mean lmao, we are going to be talking about the english language all day rather than radical religion which has ruined the world.
    Mar 5, 2019
  28. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    i respect people and their opinions and beliefs but someone who is a natural english speaker i feel should perhaps know more than someone who speaks it as a second language..
    Mar 6, 2019
  29. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    I swear to you, Every Dutch person on this server corrects everyone's english and talks about the english language all the time.
    Mar 6, 2019
  30. Otus_NigRum
    Otus_NigRum
    Now, my sentence was an exaggeration, but it is going to be taken literally and then we'll talk about hyperboles and the english language...
    Mar 6, 2019
  31. 607
    607
    I have heard of these terrorism groups, and I have heard of Jesus. I have however not heard a single argument for linking radicalism to terrorism. :)
    Mar 6, 2019
  32. 607
    607
    I figured you would think so now, but I am in fact not talking about the English word. This word exists in most languages, so what language we're talking about doesn't matter. But _because_ it's quite a universal word, it's very concerning that some people (it's not only you, even some journalists do it...!) attempt to RADICALLY change its meaning.
    Mar 6, 2019
  33. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    607, times change.
    Maps change.
    People change.
    Words change.
    If you can't accept that, you'll be very, very doomed.
    The only permanent thing is change.
    Mar 6, 2019
  34. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    You have to understand; it doesn't matter if a word gets new meanings.
    It means nothing. Radicalism has changed, morphed.
    We think Radicalism means something else now; the dictionary says otherwise.
    Who's right?
    The people are right. Words have no inherent meaning. They are symbols. Symbols can be redefined.
    Mar 6, 2019
  35. SoulPunisher
  36. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    See? Everyone is using it in a new context!
    New Context=New Meaning.
    People don't care whether you don't like the meaning, and I sure don't. There's a new meaning now.
    Mar 6, 2019
  37. 607
    607
    At first sight it might seem like it doesn't matter if a word gets new meanings. But it does. Because if a word gets new meanings, the chance is there that in time people will forget about the other meanings and always interpret the word with its new meaning. That means that the original meaning will be lost.
    This certainly is bad, and reminds of George Orwell's Newspeak.
    Mar 6, 2019
  38. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    Mar 6, 2019
  39. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    CONTEXT: Mr. House, a man preserved far beyond his normal lifespan by technology. His mind has stayed the same but his body is not like it used to be.
    Mar 6, 2019
  40. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    Whereas Newspeak is the Madness of Destruction, new meanings is the Joy of Creation. There is a certain fun in the creation of new meanings, is there not? You conflate new things with destruction, but in its place comes creation.
    Creation is an art, and one should never underestimate new ideas. It is a gamble, but when has anyone ever succeeded by not gambling something?
    Mar 6, 2019
  41. SoulPunisher
    SoulPunisher
    Words change all the time. A word for 'happy' became one for 'homosexual'. A word for 'weird' became one for homosexual too. 'Awful' used to be used in the same context as 'awesome'. 'Cute' meant 'smart', now it's a descriptor for an attractive person or something that makes you say aw. Words change all the time and every single one of them can.
    Mar 6, 2019
  42. SoulPunisher
    SoulPunisher
    This isn't newspeak. Newspeak was a commentary on how the Soviet Union abbreviated their words, e.g 'Politburo' = political bureau. It was used to enforce the laws of thoughtcrime. Natural evolution of a word is not a step in that direction.
    Mar 6, 2019
  43. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    Fear not the Joy of Creation.
    There is hope in Creation, and none in Maintenance. Even if it is not broken, one should fix it, make the World Brand New.
    With creation, we can make the World new again. A World of which you speak would decay to oblivion, 607.
    Mar 6, 2019
  44. Warlord678
    Warlord678
    I fail to see the faults in the natural evolution of Words, I fail to see the faults in Creation.
    Old things have been phased out for a reason. I see little value in continuing to put on life support that which cannot live on its own.
    Mar 6, 2019
  45. SoulPunisher
    SoulPunisher
    However, I will say that 'radical' is not a BAD word when used outside of the context of religion. As you said, vegans are radical but they have the wellbeing of animals and the entire planet in mind. Sometimes they go a little bit overboard and annoyingly evangelical, but it's for the right reasons. When it gets put into a religious context it is now colloquial with 'extremist' though.
    Mar 6, 2019
  46. 607
    607
    I can't put it better than Jamie.
    Still, I've found out that most people see being radical as a bad thing, which it clearly isn't, so maybe I should write a column or sourced article about that some-time, which I can direct people towards.
    Mar 6, 2019
  47. 607
    607
    One last question to you modern English-speakers: is 'radicality' a word, or is the word for that sense 'radicalism' or something else?
    Mar 6, 2019
  48. FadedMartian
    FadedMartian
    thats not a word
    Mar 6, 2019
  49. 607
    607
    Thanks.
    Mar 6, 2019
  50. SoulPunisher
    SoulPunisher
    Mar 6, 2019
  51. 607
    607
    Oh. Uh, thanks again. :P
    Mar 6, 2019