On Gravity in the Overworld (word heavy)

Discussion in 'General Minecraft Discussion' started by Maximus97, Nov 12, 2013.


Is this gravitational theory credible?

Absolutely! 9 vote(s) 42.9%
It has several issues, but generally is credible 12 vote(s) 57.1%
  1. -edit- I posted the poll too early:oops: Please disregard it!

    Yesterday, I created a new theory regarding the interesting gravity of the Minecraft Overworld.

    Because the size of the Overworld is roughly the size of Neptune, possibly larger (even infinite, if you count the far lands), the Overworld must be very massive. This, coupled with the fact that the entire day/night cycle takes precisely 20 minutes (a ridiculously fast revolution of this planet), means that it wouldn't take much to simply break off and begin a low orbit.

    Think of it this way: If you were to build an enormous tower, one that extends beyond the Moon, and have it perfectly stable in relation to the ground, that tower, especially at the highest point on that tower, would be spinning through space at ridiculous speeds. If you were to cut the last mile of this tower off and remove the once-supportive supports, the tower's tip would orbit, depending on its mass.

    Therefore, I theorize that the objects in the Overworld are very massive in relation to their size, as they float above the ground if you remove a tree or tower's supports. This floating is actually a very low orbit around the Overworld, and possible as the tree or tower is moving at the same speed as the ground beneath it.

    This leads to some interesting conclusions. For one, you could orbit at a level below the altitude of the clouds, or even mountains! However, this also means that, unrealistically, sand, gravel, and even iron anvils are much more massive than the same volume of gold. Huh. I also theorize that the player, Steve, is more massive than gold, as he can fall back to the ground if he jumps. Of course, this implies that he has ludicrously strong legs to overcome this gravity!

    There is one hole in my theory, however: A TNT block can orbit if supports are removed until you activate the TNT. This could be that lighting it makes it more massive... but this would be impossible. Huh.

    Discuss! Why do you think TNT behaves this way? Is my theory even credible? Be nice, please, I'm very delicate! :D (eh, not really.)
  2. Minecraft world is infinte. Far lands no longer exist in recent versions of minecraft. Forever, Forever, Forever, Forever
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  3. Most likely fire in the minecraft world has a lot more energy than it appears to be. Because of the high volumes of energy, it somehow is changed into an equal amount of mass that is both very dense and compact. That's my theory on why TNT falls
  4. The thing with gravity is that the both objects pull on each other. So... stone and grass and air might be the same mass per volume of a block, and therefore float as a single fluid. This means that gravel and sand and lit tnt have a slightly greater mass and fall to the much larger system that is the minecraft overworld in and of itself. The tnt gains energy, and so slightly gains enough mass (very small amounts) to defect from the fluid. Players and mob entities work as the gravel does in its weight relations.
    I had a video about how gravity works and it was really cool because it had minecraft in it, i'll edit this post in a bit with it.
  5. Its all a thought. Think about it (no pun intended), and it makes sense.
  6. Problem: all objects fall with the same acceleration regardless of mass, so long as they have the same air resistance. For example, if you drop a bowling ball and a feather in a vacuum, they'll hit the ground at the same time. TNT wouldn't fall just because you increase the mass.
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  7. Air blocks cause air resistance then, so all things except gravel and sand and lit tnt will move as a fluid together?
    We should all create a theory together using what we know. Idk, Torg, we'll come up with somethin'.
  8. Dat quote. Nice ideas, errybody. :cool:
  9. Perhaps we can assume that a reaction in the TNT somehow increases its mass?
  10. this hurts my head but I love it
  11. I haven't really played for a while, but doesn't TNT "hop" when you ignite it, no matter from where you touch it (top, bottom, side)?
  12. Wheee...Game Theory Time!~
    But...If the MC world is infinite..how does the sun and moon work...?

    Steve is already proved to be inhumanly strong.
    He can stay in water for about 10 seconds....convert to real world time(remember...MC day is 10 minutes) bout...about 11 minutes.
    He can jump 1 meter high...(wow)
    He can hold over 5 tons worth in weight...(Inven full of gold blocks)
    He can hit someone....2 meters away from him...
    He can punch a cow to death in 20 hits.
    He can eat gold.
    He can survive being in magma for over 2 seconds without being instantly incinerated...

    TNT...well...it possibly can weigh more when ignited because the particles could be much more unstable..

    But...if your theory is true...then sand may weigh more than gold 0_0.
    (Gold Blocks can stay afloat.....Sand falls)
  13. The far lands are actually kind of back.There's a border around it,and all blocks past the border are solid as of 1.7.
  14. The lit tnt is simple. When you light it, it produces enough thrust to knock it out of orbit and then fall to the ground.
  15. "Think of it this way: If you were to build an enormous tower, one that extends beyond the Moon, and have it perfectly stable in relation to the ground, that tower, especially at the highest point on that tower, would be spinning through space at ridiculous speeds. If you were to cut the last mile of this tower off and remove the once-supportive supports, the tower's tip would orbit, depending on its mass."

    both of these are incorrect you arent technically traveling slower or faster the further out you rotate its a relativistic speed that you would never notice. Additionally something adrift wouldn't really be orbiting more like slowly falling. assuming that its supports and connections were severed simultaneously and it was far and yet close enough to be within that perfect ratio of the gravity well for that portion of the earth, at some point a greater or less gravitational force will act upon it (mostly because the earth is by no means round and neither is it gravitational field). it will either float off or crash within a lunar day or so without some kind of stabilization system.
  16. In order for any of this to work, we'd have to assume that the Minecraft would is in fact a sphere. Based on the observation that with enough vision (i.e. render distance) we can see an unlimited distance away without the land disappearing behind the curvature of the world, we know this isn't true. If it was, however, then what bitemenow said is right, something farther away from the surface of the earth isn't actually moving faster, they have the same angular velocities. It is an interesting theory though.
  17. Actually the MC world does have an end... It is an invisible wall of bedrock, muxh like the ones on PE, the only difference is that there is stuff on the other side of the wall
  18. Not an invisible wall of bedrock, in the "farlands" every block is solid, even the air.
  19. On the sun and moon of minecraft and the far lands.
    Ideas have been turned down for our own planet, but could be plausable for the MC one.
    What if: the sun and moon revolved AROUND the world of minecraft?
    The shape of the world is just right for this. For as far and as wide the x and z coordinates go (into the millions!), the y coordinate only goes from 0 to 256.
    So the world is intensely flat, appearing to be a line at a distance (though if faced from up top it is a square).
    But looking at it from the side, it makes a perfect line of foci for an ellipsed orbital. A spherical orbital happens around a sphere, but the minecraft orbital would be grossly elongated, almost distorted.
    The sun and moon may revolve like this: (feel free to correct or change completely)
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    (Image by Lucky)
    The curvature of the orbital would allow a great pickup of orbital speed around the Horizon Foci, giving it plenty of power to streak across the sky in ten minute's time.

    And as for the far lands, they could be a solid mirage, something that we can easily see and show others, but the land is not for "real". Jumping into the farlands is one way to instanly crash minecraft, a catostrophic event a lot like "jumping off" "the edge" our own planet, if our planet had one. The farlands are a real thing to see, but not to settle.

    The image above also causes gravity to be weak at its center, as not much actually below the block that floats, but it is there. The only other thing keeping blocks up is the air resistance, and sand and gravel are not quite as solid, they (in real life) are crumbly. This gives way to sand and gravel falling and leaves disintegrating because of how the air is working against them.
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  20. I'd say minecraft is more like jupiter on steroids than neptune.
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