My Official Leave from EMC

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Mindlegokid, Aug 20, 2014.

  1. I feared the day it would come to this but due to recent events involving an EMC Veteran and Friend I have to leave. I will be voicing my OWN opinion here, if you have any problem with anything said here please notify me.

    The Back Story.

    So a couple months ago there was some fighting between a Friend and Anonymous (Not including names). After looking into this matter I was shocked. When I joined EMC (2.5 years ago-ish) I thought this community was none like any other so I stayed, for a while. About a year later Justin left and sold EMC to Aikar which I was happy about as knowing Justin was going to sell EMC for profit. Step forward to the present and my Anonymous Friend and Anonymous are brought to a fight. This anonymous friend started a convo with me and a couple of fellow EMCers. We decided to PM an Anonymous Mod about certain complaints we had about EMC. The replys were different each time and this lead me to believe EMC are lying to us. Later this Anonymous Friend and Anonymous ended their fighting, for a little while and later this Anonymous Friend left EMC. So now you know the story, why am I leaving?

    The Staff.

    So, the staff. What isn't there to talk about? After announcing that a new tutorial and games world were being worked on being the person I am I was very excited. But it's been a while since they were announced and still to the present we have had no update. I feel like the staff are lying to us. My main concern is that loyal players, like me, loved the mods. We thought they were enthusiastic ad trustful but to that is not the case anymore. I feel there is a dark secret to EMC and if you don't explain it to us more and more members are going to quit.

    My Opinion.

    So recently you could buy Max Res Upgrade Vouchers for $30 per voucher or $100 for 5. Same with Derelict vouchers. This is unbelievably expensive. $30 for 1 res? With the original gold membership, which was $10 you could get 2 and with Diamond Membership you could get 4 or only $20. $100 for 5? Seriously... EMC has gone downhill ALOT. If you want a successful server stop lying to us and remove bull like this. It's sad to see such a great server which I loved dearly fall to such like this.

    Also, stop trying to find loopholes in the EULA.

    Some Giveaways.

    Congratulations you made it this far! Although most of you probably skipped half of the post you still get free items! I will be giving away 16 diamonds to the first person that posts on my wall. I will know if you read the post or not, I have my ways.

    A Final Goodbye.

    Fix yourself EMC. You're drunk.

    Also, don't try to lock this.
  2. Sad to see you go
    Mindlegokid likes this.
  3. I love Empire Minecraft.
  4. i just wanted to say that the res voucher is for when the EULA takes effect, the supporter ranks will not be able to give extra res' ... so, would you like to be stuck with one forever? i sure wouldn't :\
  5. I understand it's about the EULA but $30 is steep.
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  6. Sorry to hear about this, you've got a detailed explanation there and I hope many people will understand. Best of luck on whatever you choose to do in the future Mindle and you'll be missed!
    Mindlegokid likes this.
  7. Thanks.
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  8. i don't think it is, especially when its a one time purchase. EMC has to have some way to stay afloat? .. i'd gladly support that, i plan, hopefully at some point to at least buy enough to have the max amount.
    anyway, i'm sorry to see you go. good luck with your future adventures to other places. :)
    Mindlegokid likes this.
  9. I'm sorry but empire has to make a change but sorry to see you go :-;

    if empire never changed then nobody would have stayed this long. If emc stayed in 1.2.5 I would have been long gone by now lol but its changed for the better. I know its your opinion I'm sorry your thinking that way.
  10. I am sorry that you feel the need to post your discourse with EMC to the public before pm'ing a Community Manager. We are here to listen to your concerns and to talk with you. For the record, I have not received any communication from you as of this moment on any of the problems you have listed.

    I am also sorry that you follow your friend so blindly. There is no dark secret behind EMC. There is a loving community and staff that work to ensure that you have an enjoyable place to play. If you want to politely talk about updates or having vouchers for perm derelict protection, that's fine, but don't insult the effort that is put into EMC every day by our amazing members/staff.
  11. I am sorry to see you go, Mindlegokid. Though I can't say I agree with all of your opinions, I respect your thoughts and wish you good luck in your future endeavors. If you ever want to talk, I am here for you. I haven't spoken to you that much, but you seemed like a nice person on those few rare occasions, so I am truly sorry that you are leaving. I hope to see you again one day.

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  12. A reminder that gold is 10$ for one single month of an extra residence, and Diamond is 20$ for a single month of 3 extra residences.

    so for the new prices, it being permanent means it saves you money in a mere 3 months of being a supporter.

    For a one time supporter, sure it is more, but even for current supporters - they get 1 free boost anyways - so 10$ is a 30$ value.

    We assure you nothing is hidden about the tutorial - its pretty simple as we described on the last thread based on a player who is trying to make drama out of nothing, we simply are over whelmed in work.

    this has always been public knowledge. We've built these teams to help us get stuff done, but there will still always be bottle necks that hold things up.

    Were working on getting more help currently, but its not easy to find someone who's able to help on a system as complex as EMC's.

    Please do not let this friend lead you down a path full of lies and false drama, many others have fell for that and realized it was wrong.

    If the pace we are able to complete things truly bothers you to the point of leaving, then we will be sad to see you go, but please don't make that decision based off of false drama.

    Also, I'm not sure why this person keeps saying we are trying to loophole the EULA.... Our plan is fully EULA compliant, so I am really confused every time I hear that.
  13. It's sad to see veteran members go. I respect your views but I am just going to pick up on some points you've made...
    I feel like it was just a bad case of mis-communication and now it's been brought up the 'community' (albeit in not the best way) hopefully it won't happen again. We should of been kept in the loop but we weren't, but sometimes things are easily forgotten about or not want to be revealed for whatever reason (want to be a surprise etc.). I'm excited for the games world but I don't want it to be rushed and when it is ready I'm sure it will be great. :)

    The max res upgrade res vouchers were a way of securing additional residences before the new EULA comes into effect. When I first saw the hefty $50 price tag, I wasn't pleased. When it was brought down to a slightly more reasonable $30 I saw that it was okay and although it gave my no incentive to get one, I know a few players got one. I see where you're coming from but you've got to remember though that at the end of the day by doing this you're supporting EMC and that's what it should be all about.
  14. im sorry about the fights youve had. Ive been here for 15 days more than you and ive experienced the same things. Ive had fights with friends and mods. I was here when Justin sold the server and when ICC was demoted. I learned that things happen and that we cant control it, but we can control how we react. I fought with Aikar and did some things that got me perm-banned, because i also thought that they were hiding the truth. but learned that it was childish and that it was a bad decision. I also learned the story from both sides, I heard it from ICC and sat down with Krysyyjane and Aikar and talked to them about it. I pieced it together and felt bad for both sides, but learned that some things are kept secret for the good of everyone else. Hopefully you dont leave, but if you do, i hope that you find another server that you enjoy and meets all of your expectations. Maybe talking to a staff before doing this could have helped.
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  15. EULA States:

    The one major rule is that you must not distribute anything we‘ve made. By “distribute anything we‘ve made” what we mean is “give copies of the game away, make commercial use of, try to make money from, or let other people get access to our game and its parts in a way that is unfair or unreasonable”. So the one major rule is that (unless we specifically agree it – such as in brand and asset usage guidelines) you must not:
    • give copies of our Game to anyone else;
    • make commercial use of anything we‘ve made;
    • try to make money from anything we‘ve made; or
    • let other people get access to anything we‘ve made in a way that is unfair or unreasonable.
    …and so that we are crystal clear, what we have made includes, but is not limited to, the client or the server software for our Game. It also includes modified versions of a Game, part of it or anything else we‘ve made.
    Otherwise we are quite relaxed about what you do - in fact we really encourage you to do cool stuff - but just don‘t do those things that we say you can‘t.

    • make commercial use of anything we‘ve made;
    • make commercial use of anything we‘ve made;
    • make commercial use of anything we‘ve made;

  16. Thank you. It's good to see more veterans around. :)
  17. You at least got to understand EMC is not money greedy. We need this to stay afloat when the EULA gets enforced. It may be expensive, but running a server as great as this one is expensive.
  18. They don't do that. I'm pretty sure that when empireminecraft converts to the EULA you will not be able to buy rupees for real life money.