Middle school.

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by pat2011, Apr 18, 2012.

  1. From from what I know, the only pregnant person at my school is my homeroom/LA teacher. Also, they teach sex ed at my school, but their not teaching us how to be safe this year, their teaching us about sexeting this year, well, from what I know. I also haven't be on ANY field trips this year. (Well, there was a drama one that I forgot to hand in the slip for, and band camp is coming up for me) but nothing for our core classes. Last field trip I went on was in grade 6, to the Alberta legislator.
  2. Just imagine if you were at my school dang
  3. Say that to our teachers.
  4. This is messed up. I know it's possible to have a kid in 7th grade but I wonder if they thought about the consequences of which would happen if they had a unprotected intercourse. :eek:
  5. they don't teach anything about safe sex until 8th grade but most of the 7th gradres know a little about hat from what the 8th graders tell us.
  6. This makes UK schools seem heavenly...
  7. What about here in The Netherlands lol :D I don't hear anything about people younger than 16 being pregnant, ofcourse there are always the few out of the common cases but furthermore. I'm currently in my final year and have yet to discover a pregnant student :)
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  8. I loved being homeschooled , that is all.
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  9. I'm totally with you! -Highfive-
  10. I am actually for just normal school :D I like the social aspect of it, ofcourse homeschool you get more attention, which is a good thing but it might also be irritating having your teacher always watch you :D
  11. lol no one in my high school is pregnant, we use condoms
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  12. I actualy have considered going to public school a couple of times but decided that homeschool was my best option. :3
    For me, I don't get why we call it homeschool since we do most of our school work out 'n about.
    And also my brother and I do most of our school work looking some stuff up online since our teacher [Mum] is such an awesome one. xD
  13. I never really had this problem when I was in middle school... I mean, there were only like 7 people in my school anyway. I think two of them were female, so there wasn't a super-high chance of anything happening.
  14. Yeah, that's the best way to learn, unless you have... hm... I can't say, I think it would be against the site rules, lol... but yeah, homeschooling is the healthiest form of education.
  15. There's two sides to that coin, in my opinion. Many believe the opposite and would argue that it prevents development of socialisation skills. On the other hand it filters out all the bad habits and attitude that is picked up in schools... No doubt, you get more attention if you're homeschooled, but I imagine I would have found it difficult to focus if I were at home.
  16. Well I would know that if my mom would have been homeschooling me I would kill her :D I can't listen to her all day!
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  17. Socialization has been ruined by schools anyway, mostly through the practice of age-segregation, but also by disallowing many kinds of social interactions and play. Before compulsory schooling, do you know how people learned things? From their elders. And by that, I don't exclusively mean old people, just people who are older than you. Do you know what you get besides knowledge from being around your elders? You learn socialization, you get inter-generational trust and connections, you learn history, you automatically become part of a society, a community. You know what's nice about societies and communities? You're known to everybody, and if you do something stupid, you'll face personal consequences from people you know. The barrier to mischief is much bigger when your actions have personal consequences than when you'll simply get sent to a counselor or police. Bullying is virtually non-existent in non-age-segregated environment. As an example, just look into the Sudbury Valley school. (By the way, if you have about 15 minutes to spare, they have a very good introduction video to their school right on their front page.)

    Age-segregation teaches people that they belong only with people of their own age, of their own generation. The older generation is feared, rarely revered, and the age groups keep mostly to themselves. The same applies in the other direction. As the older generations never interact with the younger generations, the older generations fear the younger generations. People live in "generation bubbles", not just in school, but through their whole lives. The old stick together, the young stick together, and nobody learns from each other. It's a sad state of things, and I'm confident it's almost entirely the fault of compulsory, age-segregated schooling. Just think about it.

    Ironically, the argument you're providing, which says that homeschooling prevents socialization, is actually quite the opposite. Serious homeschoolers tend to join homeschooling groups, groups without age-segregation, meaning those children get proper socialization, and learn to function outside their own age groups, learn to seek help from their elders and without a doubt become better adjusted than public school children.

    I can write so much more about this, but I feel like this is already so long that most people won't bother reading it (kudos to those of you who did) so I'll quit for now, and I still strongly recommend the book Dumbing Us Down: The Hidden Curriculum of Compulsory Schooling by John Gatto, and that you look into Sudbury Valley for a much better model of school, if you're interested in what I'm talking about. Hopefully I've been able to convince you that I know what I'm talking about, and that I'm not pulling stuff out of thin air, but even if I know my stuff, I'm much less knowledgeable than John Gatto, who was a school teacher for 30+ years, and Sudbury Valley, which is effectively living out the model of education that I believe in.
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  18. What you say makes a lot of sense, but I don't 100% agree that all of the old stick together and vice versa. At the age of 14, my social group consisted of a 40 year old, a 22 year old, a 19 year old, a 16 year old, another boy also 14 and myself. Perhaps that's just the school systems in some places...

    Sure, I did socialise with mainly my own age group (mainly within school), but that's only because they were at the same level of learning as me, so I simply got more opportunity to know them. I had friends higher up and lower down the ages within school too.

    Have you read up sources that support the other side of the argument?

    By the way, I'm not expressing any opinions here, really. More playing devil's advocate...
  19. The true problem is that sex is quite over-glorified, especially within social communities. At my school, for example, a freshman guy 'did it' with a junior and a senior, and is considered a legend by almost every guy. Yeah, sex is great, it keeps mankind alive, but should who you have done really affect your social standing with others at all?
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  20. Sure, but would you agree that it applies to most people? I don't think I ever insisted it applies to all people.

    Well, that sounds both nice and healthy, but were you guys the exception or the rule? I don't think that's very common anymore. I've personally never seen such a group where I live, and my impression is that it's not very common.

    What does age group mean here? In the school systems I know, people are placed together based on nothing else than the year they were born, even if those children's maturity levels can be wildly different.

    Some kids are "ready for school" when they are 4, others not until they are 10, yet in most countries, all these kids will be shoved into class at a specific age. Where I live, it's the year you turn 6.

    I haven't, but what such sources exist? Most people (out of ignorance) believe the system we have is the one and only way of doing things anyway, and that people like me and John Gatto are crazies for even considering another option, despite the fact that schools as we know them today didn't exist until as late as the 1840s (but they've changed lots since then also, for instance they've become a lot more centralized and hierarchical than they used to be), and weren't commonplace until much later. I'll read up on such sources if you know any.

    I like having my beliefs challenged. It's an important step in furthering knowledge. So thanks for challenging me. :)
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