Ahoy! My Maties and Sailors that I have never met... It is time for someone to discuss and speak for the ones who choose not to speak or report there issue all because they are either scared or don’t want an issue. But if you keep an issue to yourself, you’ll eventually feel depressed that nothing hasn’t change because it’s not going to change until you open your mouth. How did we get from a community where everyone is so friendly and willing to help others all because everyone can trust one another to the community turn against each other, griefing, choosing to ignore others pain, and to be disrespectful when someone ask for help. The economy is dying and the community is dying.. the shops are dead and people stop caring and buying from those shops that have been well-known. Many people who were well-known and popular to EMC are leaving and the veteran EMC players, some are toxic. [As for respect, I will not say anybody’s name when telling there statements of there issue]* A player host a love doing events..when their event post have got griefed or destroyed by creeper or lightning, they have to cancel their event and ask the community for help but what they get? They get boo’d at and never got the helped that they need. Leaving them upset and thinking twice if they want to host events or not. * A player, who build had an outpost for more than 5 years, had been griefed and no staff didn’t help or any member helped them. Selfishness is ugly on people. * What happen with the well-known players who are in pain? The community ignore the fact that they might be in serious help or need someone to talk to and what do they get? Nothing, that other person just talks about other things and ignoring the issue. We have too many solo players. [but what’s the main issue]I am just a messenger, a little birdie that’s speaking over the ones who couldn’t. They might like or hate what I did now. But there needs to be a change. Not saying everyone in the community needs to change. But why not go back to supporting and helping one another, like been used to. Let’s bring the malls and shops back to life. Farms and etc. without any change, the whole server will die. And more people will get less interested and leave..maybe not the new comers, but the people who have been here before 2020. {You can ignore this or help out, or criticize my statement or hate me, I do not care, I am already in isolation mode towards people because of their behavior to others. I am not here to cause any drama, for I do not like drama at all. But if people want to cause drama towards this then that's them. I just want a change and to see people working together and caring for each other again, like back then.}
I didn't know about some of these incidents Maybe I'm on at different times of day. I am always available to help with repairing griefing or building/preparing things for community events or utilities. (I'm not very good at rescuing players in sticky combat situations and I never survive the nether so I'm no great rescuer). Maybe we could have a volunteers list of people who are willing to help if something needs fixed? On SMP7 I (and others) keep spawn areas un-griefed and fill creeper holes, take down floating trees, replant, and keep it nice and navigable for other players to use and enjoy. If I find a community farm that's left bare I'll replant it. There are lots of other players who quietly tidy up after others <3 I always see people going out of their way to help new players, give them resources, etc. There is good and bad, selfishness, but generosity too.
Ima be honest to me nothing has changed in my opinion. Just depends on your personality towards others and how you treat them.
Uh - so maybe these events have happened, but I don't think that persepctive reflects the entire community. The one thing I can say for sure - EMC is definitely not dying now. Does no one else feel this "tidal wave" of positivity that's been circulating the forums or in-game? I can't really comment about the economy or possible toxic veteran players, but the community is standing strong. In fact, there's been so many veteran players who have checked back or rejoined EMC in these last few weeks, which is only a testament to how EMC's community is really quite unique. The new player event update helps players struggling to host. And its really cool to see the community planning unique events like a Taco Tuesday or even an online graduation ceremony for the class of 2020 (and this is a Minecraft game!) To be honest, I wouldn't expect players to just stop what they are doing to help - but we all help in different ways. Some people have these weird forum games here and other people just create auctions to boost the economy. I've seen your art and it's amazing! So maybe just try to think about the bigger picture a little bit more (please don't be offended at that statement). Like I said, EMC is changing for the better right now and it's pretty cool to watch.
I agree with you that the economy is dying. With nothing to keep things in line, value just keeps dropping. Add to that less players and high stock, low demand. People keep lowering their price to sell to a point it's not even worth the trouble to compete. If we had shop back it would at least create a floor for prices. As for the rest of what you said. Completely disagree. Community is far from dying. It's not the community it used to be, sure. It's a different community now but that's normal. Things change over time, people come and go and a new type of community takes shape. I think the community is fine. One thing I do notice is sometimes when people are upset or frustrated here, they see more of the negativity of EMC and think that's what it is. Sadly griefing will always happen because not everyone who joins here has the respect for others that most of us have. And what happened when TBirds area was griefed? Everyone jumped to help out. That's how this community is.
This right here! Yes! I came back a few weeks ago and already I've seen such positivity! One example of this is all the support Impulsive_Egg and I have been getting with our pride project. So many players are helping out and showing their support. Even aside from that, I am constantly seeing so much kindness just about everywhere I look. This is an extremely unique community. With the good I'm sure there will always be sprinkles of bad. However, I think it is safe to say that the majority of players on this server are always willing to be there for each other one way or another, whether its answering questions, lending a hand with things, or simply being a friendly voice to listen to!
I would like to say thats emc is never dying, i know a lot of games are dying because of quarantine, But emc is blooming, i guess the economy us going down, but once new items start occurring it will be going back off, but the fact goes, i personally don't play emc for the economy, I love the community on emc and it will never die. to be honest i don't know what you talking about when you say people ignore the fact that some people are In quote on quote "Pain". In anything we support players no matter what <3! I also don't understand, why you see that old players are toxic now? Emc is growing! We will always help eachother, And to clarify, yes toxicity happens but its way less then other servers. Yes people are leaving, because of something in irl, And just because they left, doesn't mean they hate us, people are really busy in real life. Im glad people are coming back due to quarantine, thats why i came back! I don't know how they approach emc, were you only thing about the bad in emc (there is very little, even no bad on emc <3) Think about the good the funny things, think about what makes emc unic to minecraft, We all love minecraft <3, Btw im not speaking of you midnight saying this.
Exactly what Linden said - "I didn't know about some of these incidents Maybe I'm on at different times of day." I've seen lots of positives. Lots of folks helping new players whether that's just in chat with information, or going out and rescuing them when they are lost and don't understand livemap yet. What Ender said about veteran players returning - agreed. I am sure some things have gone wrong. Something always goes wrong; that's life and it stinks but it happens. Generally though, the community rallies around when things go KABOOM. If a person dies in lava a few times, someone helps them get back on their feet with gear or rupees. If someone gets griefed and they need help fixing things, people show up and help fix it, or offer to show up on say next Saturday afternoon and help out then. Folks can't always drop everything to help immediately, but what I see in chat is that help happening or getting planned to happen. I either wasn't around for the "boo'ing" incident, or I had community chat turned off (or plain old didn't see it). But shame on those who reacted that way. Hopefully they see your post and know they eventually got called out for it. The player who got griefed should make a post so we all know what s/he needs help with. The community would help out. That I am 100% sure of; they just need to get the word out and not be afraid to give their post a bump or two so folks have a chance to see it. What do they need help with? Materials? Time/effort? Rupees? I don't know whether things were stolen or broken or whatnot. If they do post, someone crosslink here please. I generally miss anything posted on days when I am working. I'm sure that's true of others also (school, work, family stuffs, etc). As for the pain one, that is too situational for me to have any opinion. Some people are too deeply drowning in their own hidden pain to help. Others just don't know what to say. Other times, it's just too serious for EMC. The person needs to seek professional help (whether that is a counselor or a suicide hotline or a support group). If it's above the response of "I hope you feel better soon", then I can understand getting back crickets. Politely encouraging folks to seek professional help is never a bad idea in that situation, but most feel awkward doing it and may fear not knowing how to say it in a way that won't upset or anger the other person. Hope whoever is having the issue/s does seek professional help.
Dude... didn't you quit until quarantine hit? Ironically you left at around the time EMC Attendence was at an all time low, with less than 2k forum members active
Obviously if you only look at the bad and don't look at the good, it can seem like the community's dying or players are unfriendly or something. But isolated incidents don't define the community as a whole Sure, the community isn't what it was like 8 years ago, but that doesn't mean it's dead or dying. Change isn't always a bad thing
Ok buddy, lot of stuff to unpack here so let's get to it before my attention span decreases any more than it has reading that. Just by reading that it's pretty obvious you don't know anything about me, my characteristics, what I stand for, etc, which is saying something, since I know plenty about your character. I am a funny, sarcastic, friendly person, and reading any of my posts proves it. As a close friend of Midnight and a friend of BennyBeltsJets, I understood 100% what both sides were talking about, and I agree with both. I'm glad that Benny came back but was just noting that yes, EMC was dying at the time of his absence, but with the update player attendence have gone up dramatically. What I post is all in good fun, and I hope you understand that and I pray that next time you'll come across a similar comment like mine you'll be a little more open minded about the person that's on the other side of the screen, thanks and much love
It's so nice of you to want to create a bunch of drama on behalf of "ones that choose not to speak". Considering you have not even been on this server for a year and a half maybe you should just do your own thing and let these "others", if they actually exist, speak for themselves. Just a suggestion.
A forum post is a good idea if someone is griefed then we all know who needs a hand with repairs or some resources donated etc. Be kind to each other. Even more than usual in these strange times. The pandemic is getting to everyone one way or another. We aren't all necessarily at our best right now so it's a good time to be patient with others and give them the benefit of the doubt and let stuff go. <3
Regradless of how long you've been here. we see everyone here as an equal, and everyone has the right to share their thoughts without fear of judgement. Let's keep things civil and friendly, Please--- After all, That's what this thread was about to being with.
Sure, I have seen some shops taking a hit. The economy fluctuates. It happens. It's always going to be a cycle no matter what. Fact is, yes, there are people who like to make our lives harder. They want to ruin it, for all of us. I have seen some noticeable spikes in toxicity or inappropriate chatting lately. Those players were dealt with swiftly and accordingly, as they should've been. The community I have always known and still know, takes care of their own. Don't hang onto the tunnel vision of what bad things have come to be known. We're not perfect programs. Just let it go. Take a breathe. Don't let it get to ya. I didn't know which events you were referring to. Let word get around, and see then, who will come to your aid. The community isn't dead. We're alive and growing. I still consider myself friendly and eager to help where and how I can. I love to jump up and help, though I'm usually not the first and definitely not the only one.
I do not play this server very often anymore, you'll find me hanging around the forums every now and then because I quite enjoy debating with people, and those opportunities come up quite often. As a personal opinion I often disagree with large members of this community about changes on the server and many other things, but I would never say that the EMC community has turned for the worse. If people need help on this server, all they need to do is ask, and they will get the help. There are plenty of people who are always willing to talk to anyone who is in need. Your idea that the community has turned to one that doesn't care about other people is completely absurd. These incidents that you talk about are so few and far between that it is absurd that you'd try and paint those as how the entire community acts all the time, when it is in fact quite the opposite. You say you don't want to cause any drama, and yet here you are accusing the entire community of being a group of incredibly toxic people, when this is just not true. I know I'm not exactly the beacon of good behaviour, so maybe it isn't my place to speak about people being toxic. However, the people that you mentioned in your "statements" that boo others who ask for help, are not good people, that much is true. Going on to then try and paint the entire community as that is just fictitious. All it takes is one look at most of the people in this thread to realise this, people on this server want to help others. I can tell you from personal experience that most of the players on EMC are incredibly kind people, who will always do their best for others no matter what. On to your point about the economy dying, it's dead. It has been for years. We have been talking about this for a long time, the economy died a very long time ago and to try and do anything to revive it at this point would be completely futile. There are far too many items in the economy for anything to have a substantial value, there are too many rupees in the economy for any sort of economic changes to actually have an impact. That's all I'm going to say on this here, since I've definitely explained my thoughts on this somewhere else before.
I've heard this several times and I don't understand what it means. I have been very active in the economy for several years both from auctioning and operating a shop and am perplexed by these comments. When I want to auction something I auction it and there is always someone that wants to bid on it. When I want to buy something I can always find a shop that is selling it. Within the last maybe 5 weeks I have made over a million rupees from selling items from the update. I have a shop that I closed because keeping it stocked was too much work. But if I wanted to do it I know I could open it and sell stuff. You say in one breath there are "too many items in the economy" (supply is high) and then you say "too many rupees in the economy" (demand is high). I've had a lot of economics classes and that would sure indicate a vibrant economy. Bottom line I believe is, if anyone wants to get into the economy on this server they can have fun with it and make rupees. Might not be a big market for dirt but if you find some stuff to sell people they want they will buy it. It was a fun part of this server 5 years ago and still is.
