Hello, all you grief-stricken players,Nearly a year ago, I happened on Nzscruffy’s big iron farm near spawn at frontier on SMP5. It was so raided by griefers that no iron came out anymore, and I started to fix it, together with my pals of Group72. When it was working, sort of, Nzscruffy, reborn as Mystickrafter and later as himself again, came in and showed us how to optimize it, put in a 4th underground level and created the central collection point.During all that work, we had to battle griefers. This took so much of my play time, that I decided to leave the maintenance of the farm to others, especially during my long absence times in Africa. Luckily, people like Dektirok, Marshmallow369, f_Builder_s and many others took over and kept the farm alive. Lately, Marvin_72 spent most of his play time fixing what the griefers destroyed the day before, and he is close to giving up, too, because he’d like much more to do community work in Jackpot Canyon.Bigdavie did most of the banning of the griefers (real fast, too!), and he told us it’s mostly newcomers. He also told me that staff cannot divulge the names of the avatars involved due to possible legal implications.Now, I think we have 2 groups of griefers: Group A. The curious ones, mostly newbees, trying to find out how things work and too dumb (or indifferent) to fix what they broke. This group could be kept smaller by a more to-the-point tutorial, proving to them that griefers can be caught. Most of them just need a tutor for a few days to make them understand what they did not in the tutorial. Mostly, no ban needed there (any suggestions how we could set up a tutelage?).Group B. The bad ones, breaking things for the sake of breaking. Most of them don’t care to be caught, because after a ban they go to another server and keep griefing.In group B we have the “professional” griefers, and there is no hiding against them. I made an experiment last week to prove this and looked for an interesting structure on the dynmap far out; found 2 nice looking iron farms in the [REMOVED BY STAFF] and went there by boat and foot. I did NOT hide on the map. Went inside one of the aesthetically most pleasing iron farms I ever saw, a griefer’s heaven! Of course, I did not change or break any of their blocks. There were no locked doors. Had I not revealed myself to BAMMindustries, whom I found in his office, nobody would have learned that they had a visitor (I apologize for entering uninvited). They thought to be safe against griefers, being so far away. Well, they are not. My first base was farther away from spawn than theirs and still got destroyed completely, down to level 20, including a nearbay village. The professional griefers cannot be avoided by distance.So, what to do?I suggest to put the names of griefing and banned avatars into a public database, for other servers to help decide whom they let in and other players to learn whom they play with. According to my friend, a lawyer, an avatar is NOT a legal (juristic) person, hence making its behaviour public is not against any law. However, since a Minecarft construct is the intellectual or literary property of the human player who had it built (no matter how insubstantial it is), destroying it is a criminal act of the human player behind the griefing avatar. Should she/he reveal herself/himself, legal action could be taken against her/him.Of course I am not aware of all the aspects of server administration, so I started this thread (with a probably too long post) and hope to get useful insights.