[ POLL ] Your opinion on why the worlds falling apart (CLOSED)

I don't think the world is coming to an end any time soon. But I don't know.
Mister lama/alpaca says the world is coming to an end soon because of Matthew 24:6: "You will hear wars and of rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is soon to come".
But I reply to that with 1 Thessalonians 5:2: "for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night."
Wars and rumours of wars, and pretty much everything Jesus has said before about indications of the end of time has happened before. The world could've ended dozens of times already. A recent example being WW2. There were probably thousands if not millions of people who thought Adolf Hitler was the antichrist. And yet the war ended, Hitler died, and while WW2 was terrible and showed many indications of the end of time, we're still here. And that's why I don't suddenly expect the end of time soon now. Because really, people have been saying everything written down in Revelations would happen within the next few years for nearly 2000 years now.

actually the bible says to kill them. "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

but i dont really see how this discussion has to do with the op.

I hope you don't mind me not getting involved with the "Bible tells to kill homosexuals", as I think it has more potential for drama than good things.

Right, so... keyboard is hooked up. It's a little bit dodgy, probably due to it being new and me not being used to using it, so I apologise for any missing spaces (the key I'm having the most trouble with is the space bar ).

Your points stated in the original post don't make sense. Humanity, as a species, have gone through much worse than we are now - global warming/climate change won't have much effect on us. Homo Neanderthalis survived the cold extremes of North Europe for thousands of years - who killed off these 5'5 human tanks? Homo Sapiens - us. We introduced diseases to them, we killed them (to be fair, they killed us too), and we interbred with them - all about 40,000 years ago.

We've come back from the brink of extinction dozens of times. About 72,000 years ago, Toba erupted in what is modern-day Indonesia on the island of Sumatra. It was the largest eruption the Earth has (going off the eruptions we know of) ever experienced, and pushed humankind back to a pair of 1,000 adults able to reproduce. It was the closest time we have ever been driven to extinction. We've nearly been wiped off the face of the planet multiple times by diseases and... ourselves. The United States and Russia have had pointless bickering going on between them both since 1946 - during those 70+ years, humanity could have been wiped out. It isn't until recently that these Cold War-like attitudes have re-emerged, the height of that being Russia 'invading' Ukraine and Russia stirring up shit with the United Kingdom (flying bomber planes into our airspace and over our land), other European nations (invading Ukraine being the obvious point, and threatening to nuke Denmark), and the United States. The common people of the world look on: wondering when the hell Russia is going to get out of the 20th century and catch up with the rest of the world, and wanting them to stop with the genital-measuring (am I allowed to say that? ) contest.

On your point of 'nobody' being persecuted for their religious beliefs in the past, but are now (at least, that's what it sounded like to me): people have been killed for their religions and wars have been started over them dozens of times in the past. A great example is the Crusades, which lasted from the late 1000s to the mid-1200s. They were started by Popes against the Muslim presence in the Middle East: They were stupid, achieved little, and it was basically glorified genocide. The Muslims had their own equivalent: Jihads, which still exist today in the form of radical groups such as ISIS.

I also chose religion as the reason for international tensions and such for obvious reasons. The world could do a whole lot better without it: Christian values are considered common decency in the Western World (on top of that, a lot of the nicest people I know are athiests: they don't tell me I'm going to hell for not believing in a holy figure. Secular countries also have some of the most helpful and nice people within them...), people wouldn't get killed 'in the name of God', and it would stop pointless bickering overall. It's all fine and dandy believing what you want to believe, but for Spaghetti Monster's sake, don't force your beliefs on others.

I'm going to end this post on the note that we should be putting money into the de-extinction of megafauna and other extinct animals we've slaughtered to extinction throughout the Holocene Mass Extinction (caused by, of course, humans), not wars. We should totes be bringing back Thylacine, Woolly Mammoths, Mastodons, Dodos and stuff (which we can totally do and should have done in a few years!) to repair the ecosystem... and also because those animals are cool

And also space. More space stuff, please.

That's not how mass extinctions work. In the current Mass Extinction, humans are the ones coming out on top. Dinosaurs didn't overpopulate and destroy the planet (neither did the dominant species before them. The list goes: bacteria, then fish, then amphibians, then insects, then reptiles, then dinosaurs, then mammals) - they adapted to a changing Earth and evolved into birds. The dinosaurs that didn't adapt died out. Another Mass Extinction was caused by a gamma ray burst from a star dozens of light years away from us and it killed loads of animals.

Also, my view on the stuff about the Bible being homophobic above: if you don't like homosexuals laying together, then don't lay with a homsexual - leave those that do decide to do that in peace. It's not like you have to watch them do it, or they ask you to watch them. (Unless they do, which is slightly weird, and you should totally be creeped out... unless you're into that stuff.). It's that simple.

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Ive seen you make reference to America being founded in christianity a few times. This is wholly incorrect. In fact, quite the opposite is the truth. Nowhere in the constitution does it mention god. What it does mention is that

The original founders of the Constitution, and the US government, meant to keep church and state separate. Thomas Jefferson wrote in an 1802 letter to the Committee of Danbury Baptist Association calling it "a wall of separation between Church and State." Madison also described the 1st Amendment "Strongly guarded. . . is the separation between religion and government in the Constitution of the United States." The Founding Fathers varied very little about this interpretation.

You also mentioned the National Anthem, I'm going to assume you meant Pledge of Allegiance, in regards to the phrase "Under God." The original Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by a Socialist Minister, Francis Bellamy. It read, "I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." In the year 1923 the words "Flag of the United States of America" were added. It wasn't until 1954, in President Eisenhower's response to Communism that the words "Under God" were added... even under strong objection from Bellamy's daughter.

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As to the original topic at hand. The world is as "wicked" now as it has ever been. There have been periods of time where certain religions held prominence over certain areas for an amount of time and they flourished.... and then died. There is always going to be evil in the world. However, there is always going to be goodness... with or without religion. This holds true inside religion as well.

I'll leave this post by quoting Voltaire,

The US was set up on Christian standards, just todays people removed it from your text books .

And I leave you w/ 2 verses that you can loom up on your own, theres one I want to give but it would be "attacking"you

1. Psalm 92:6
2. Proverbs 15:7
3. Daniel 12:10

the Daniel one doesn't call you "wicked" but if you don't understand whats happening, I didn't call you it, Daniel did.

A lot of those niches haven't been filled yet. It can take way more than 10,000 years for another species to step up and fill that gap in some cases. If you kept, say, a wild reserve and put resurrected species into it (such as the Pleistocene Park in Russia, where they plan to populate the area with woolly mammoths), I don't there would be much harm done - especially if the ecological niche hasn't been filled yet and likely won't for another few thousand years.

I'd be interested to know what people would think of the Chickenosaurus (where you stop certain genes in a chicken from activating and activate others, turning wings into arms, beaks into mouths, etc.)... from what I've seen on in the internet, some people want them as pets, others as farm/zoo animals, some as purely lab-restricted - some people have even said they want them running around in the wild (I don't think I've ever seen someone say they didn't want them made). The whole wild one is the only option I don't agree with - a 'Chickenosaurus' is basically a Velociraptor (no, not one from Jurassic Park movies - the real one that looks more like a weird bird), which I don't think people would find as cool after it rips someone's child apart in a park. Then again, I have no idea if they plan to change how the animal's digestive system works and thus no idea if they plan to make the animal a carnivore or not

Or you just don't like being wrong.

I can only speak to the condition of the U.S. directly and my experience here. It has gotten much worse and it's due directly to greed. The almighty dollar.