[Suggestion] Forum section for Moderated Threads.

This might have been brought up elsewhere, but have you reported the posts that are rude? A possible third option is that staff never see it or don't realize anyone cares about it. Posts should be moderated everywhere already. By creating a section specifically for not being rude, it creates the idea that being rude is Ok everywhere else. It also ties the moderators hands even more. There would then be an expectation that they moderate tougher in one forum section than anywhere else. Since much of what you are asking for is already the rule, they would likely end up lightening their moderation in other forums instead of strengthening it in one.

The better option would be to just report posts that your feel are being rude. If nothing comes from it, try contacting a moderator or Kryssy and see if you are missing something.

I don't see how things would be worse off for having this section. I disagree that creating it would lead to worse behavior elsewhere.

If you feel things are ok, that's fair and it may be your experience. But please consider that others may be having a very different experience and that this could be a great solution for them. Sure, there might be other ways to solve this...but those are not this thread.

What you suggest as a "better option" is that we keep doing the same thing. I think that just speaks to the above...the point of even suggesting the change (and spending time on these discussions) is that the current way isn't working for some.

in reality it works the opposite as the way you are suggesting. just think about some things emc has added to increase efficiency and reduce other problems.
emc added pvp, did that reduce the amount of complaining about pvp in the wild? no in fact it attracted more pvp'ers who didnt know the rules and still tried to pvp in the wild.

emc added the wastelands to try and curtail griefing and give everyone the opportunity to gather fresh resources. but instead players kept mining out deserts in the frontier and new players thought griefing was allowed in the waste AND continued griefing for resources in the frontier.

the same thing would happen with this, the problems you are addressing would continue happening in normal threads, and when people were reported in those normal threads they would make the excuse that it isnt the moderated thread.

your policy is essentially the same as appeasement, rather then confronting the actual issue of under reporting real problems within the community.

One could read this to mean that you think PVP and Wastelands were bad ideas, and should have been blocked. EMC is clearly better for them even if that wasn't obvious at the start. I think EMC would be better for this too.

I don't really understand the last points. Moderators are still moderators, and the normal rules are still the normal rules. If some players get confused we can talk to them and sort it out. Not sure what you're trying to say with under reporting...is it a problem? You might make a suggestion thread also then.

Your suggestion is to continue doing things the same way, just in a different place. The moderated forums would still require the op reporting the offending post exactly as they are already expected to do anyway. Rude players will not realize they are in the moderated section because they will find the thread from the recent threads sidebar. Rude players also don't care that they are in the moderated section. For this reason, the people who want to be rude will be rude anyway completely ignoring the special section. At this point, the op is in the exact same position as if they were posting anywhere else: someone has just posted something offensive in their thread and they have to deal with it. They have seen the offensive post and might be hurt by it.

The problem of where to draw the line still exists. There is no scale from 1-10 on rudeness that staff can use. Deciding how rude something is is much more subjective than asking if it is rude at all. By trying to draw that line and putting a qualification on rudeness only confuses the situation more compared to the binary system we have now. Staff would now have to not only ask if this offended someone but if it did, is it allowed amounts of offensive or not allowed amounts of offensive.

Being rude to other players shouldn't be allowed anywhere on here. Creating a different location with the exact same solution as before won't fix the problem for the reasons I mentioned before. Instead, the problem with the report button should be fixed. Along that direction, could you link to some posts that you feel are rude, have personally reported, and still didn't get fixed? With these links, everyone should realize that they are used to discuss a topic and aren't necessarily condeming the poster or trying to shame them.

I agree with much of what you said. The spirit of my suggestion is to create a place where a stronger line exists. Where it is now I can't tolerate and so I suggest a path forward.

I gave some illustrative examples above. I'm not going to cite specific examples because I don't think it would be constructive. I also have no desire to insult staff by questioning their decisions on this suggestion thread. I hope you understand?

Since we've come full circle and I think we've said all our points, I think this is where we agree to disagree.

Thanks for your comments and participation!

So you want to create a Safe Space for people who can't take cruel and rude people? People should know anything from the internet should be taken lightly (Don't always believe what you read on the internet). Also there is a report button on the bottom of every post, if the report button is an issue, it would be better to have to "Report" name be larger or be more visible... -1

Appreciate the vote. If you want information there are some posts above that explain the reasoning in detail.

Yes, I want safety from cruel and rude people. I don't agree that a larger report button would be a better solution than this, however you're free to make a thread suggesting that to get more opinions.

Wonder why.

As saddening as it is to note, the world really isn't all sunshine and rainbows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Highly Relevant.

"Safe space" is an illusion, a soap-bubble for those unable to handle the rough edges of day-to-day life. Now, does that mean I endorse rude, cruel, or coarse language? Of course not (though I may have been guilty of it a few times myself). I don't personally believe EMC is in such bad shape that stricter moderation is needed anywhere, but I'll respect that you believe otherwise. However, if you honestly view some barbed words as a problem, the answer isn't to run from it. No matter where you go, life is not going to afford you the chance to hide from adversity inside an emotional pillow-fort. The only acceptable solution is to learn the necessary coping mechanisms to deal with such issues in a healthy and positive manner. Such will serve you (and anyone else in the same shoes) much better than trying to simply avoid confrontation altogether.

*claps the current /future generations are doomed because they can not take anyone damaging their world view i applaud the university for not playing into the garbage that is safe-space and trigger warning

Interesting, though a little off-topic I am in no way suggesting a place where agreement is encouraged or enforced.

...and thanks for participating. By making suggestions and discussing them we help to improve EMC!