[DEBATE] Presidential Election - 2016 (closing Nov 22)

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On March 16th, 2016 – I made my 29th Empire Forum post in this thread on the 11th page as the 206th post. While I did comment a few more times in March, & then a few times again in May, I would like to think that my interaction in this so called “Debate” has been minimal & without derogatory remarks that I have seen often plague this thread over the course of the additional pages.

Time again insurmountable odds faced by God's servants, often the result of reaping a bad harvest from faulty seeds (deeds). Then we observe the situation deteriorate to the point beyond Mission: Impossible, His servants Trust In Him, & He assuredly shows up to rescue them from Pharaoh's hand, a giant, a fiery furnace, the innards of a whale, or maybe the incisors found in a den of lions.

Why does He allow such? Sometimes it is because that is part of the learning process, & coming to a place where we Trust Him with our life that He willingly gave us in the first place. Other times, I feel He simply wants to show off, & catch our attention in regards to something that is beyond explanation – surely that was an “Act of God” we say.

So with those thoughts in mind, I want to turn our focus back to this improbable election in which the most unlikely candidate that was not even considered genuine at first, defied the odds, & pulled off what many are calling a miracle victory.

To those of you who would have preferred a different outcome, take comfort that something much larger than any of us is at work. If you care to, you can read my previously mentioned post to grasp some of the depth of this situation. Here is that link : https://empireminecraft.com/posts/1136577/

Back then, I shared with you a prophecy that has had me looking for the time that God would use Trump.

Something happened though…And even though He did not specifically spell it out for the media, I feel he came to a real time of change in his walk with God.

Oh, but how could this be? Well, we have a few Biblical examples to consider.

Saul of Tarsus – Persecutor of Christians and even claimed to be “Chief of all Sinners” at one time (1 Timothy 1:15)
Yet on another occasion we find him saying “We have wronged no man” (2nd Corinthians 7:2.)

Jacob – Wrestled with God, got a bum leg, & a new name – Israel. From that point on, one would think that if God said you are no longer Jacob that one would carry on as Israel. This is not how the following scriptures are recorded though. Many instances we see Jacob speak, & also many times Israel spoke. How could that be if he was changed?

I point these two situations out, because as I have often heard in regards to being fishers of men that similar to normal fishing you are highly unlikely to catch a fillet of fish already cleaned up, & ready to cook. In most normal cases, Minecraft being an exception, one must work to clean the fish after the process of rescuing them from the water. This can also apply to one who has decided to accept Christ as their Savior, it doesn’t always mean from that instant onward that you will not sin, or be completely free of the entanglements associated with a non-Christ-like lifestyle. It is a Walk with God that must be taken step by step.

I personally believe that God has his hands on Trump, & will guide him to return America to her rightful place on the world stage, as we once again Lead the way (not from behind). So what does this mean to those who cringe at the idea of Trump? Remember who is Truly in charge. I often tell those at work that they must remember to not get weighed down by working for the company, but if they simply work for God, it helps give a whole new perspective to situations that would otherwise become burdensome.

Sometime after the aforementioned post, I ran upon another prophecy that was actually given in April of 2011. See if it sounds accurate to you? Don’t forget that at the time this was given, the prophet – Mark Taylor, was interpreting this to be for the 2012 election, and was anticipating it to be vs. the returning then President Obama.

In 2011, retired firefighter Mark Taylor says, God showed him a vision in which Donald Trump would become president of the United States.

April 28, 2011, the now-Republican presidential front-runner gave a speech in Las Vegas to a gathering organized by the Clark County Nevada Republican Party. At the time, he was mulling a possible 2012 presidential bid while hounding President Obama to release his birth certificate.

During the Las Vegas visit, Trump did an interview, which Taylor watched on television. During that interview, he said God told him he was listening to the president. Although Trump eventually did not run for office in 2012, the retired firefighter believes the businessman's 2016 run is God-ordained, and shared his vision this week with Rick Wiles of TruNews:

The Spirit of God says, I have chosen this man, Donald Trump, for such a time as this. For as Benjamin Netanyahu is to Israel, so shall this man be to the United States of America! For I will use this man to bring honor, respect and restoration to America. America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than Israel). The dollar will be the strongest it has ever been in the history of the United States, and will once again be the currency by which all others are judged.

The Spirit of God says, the enemy will quake and shake and fear this man I have anointed. They will even quake and shake when he announces he is running for president, it will be like the shot heard across the world. The enemy will say what shall we do now? This man knows all our tricks and schemes. We have been robbing America for decades, what shall we do to stop this? The Spirit says HA! No one shall stop this that l have started! For the enemy has stolen from America for decades and it stops now! For I will use this man to reap the harvest that the United States has sown for and plunder from the enemy what he has stolen and return it 7 fold back to the United States. The enemy will say Israel, Israel, what about Israel? For Israel will be protected by America once again. The spirit says yes! America will once again stand hand and hand with Israel, and the two shall be as one. For the ties between Israel and America will be stronger than ever, and Israel will flourish like never before.

The Spirit of God says, I will protect America and Israel, for this next president will be a man of his word, when he speaks the world will listen and know that there is something greater in him than all the others before him. This man's word is his bond, and the world and America will know this and the enemy will fear this, for this man will be fearless. The Spirit says, when the financial harvest begins so shall it parallel in the spiritual for America.

The Spirit of God says, in this next election they will spend billions to keep this president in; it will be like flushing their money down the toilet. Let them waste their money, for it comes from and it is being used by evil forces at work, but they will not succeed, for this next election will be a clean sweep for the man I have chosen. They will say things about this man (the enemy), but it will not affect him, and they shall say it rolls off of him like the duck, for as the feathers of a duck protect it, so shall my feathers protect this next president. Even mainstream news media will be captivated by this man and the abilities that I have gifted him with, and they will even begin to agree with him says the Spirit of God.


One might say, why couldn’t God use Hillary like this? Maybe it has to do with the fact that God has already had to use a Donkey to convey His message before, & He is a God of variety. In Numbers 22:21-39 we find that God actually spoke through the donkey. If God can do that, surely He is capable of utilizing President Trump with all his suggested short-comings to guide America back on track.

All of this was to encourage those of you who may be sad, to consider what a time it is to be alive & witness God’s plan unfolding for America. I truly believe Trump can be the anti-establishment candidate for both parties, as both parties were not exactly fans of Trump. I also believe Trump will work to bridge the gap between the parties as he is a driven man who wants to win, & with his reputation on the line he will work hard to succeed.

I honestly feel that democratic ticket will come to a time of astonishment at how well Trump is working with & for them too. I implore you to give Trump, & God a chance as they work on our behalf to restore unity to the United States of America.

I pray that the Love of God fall on His people as we enter into this new uncertain time, & that we walk in the Light of Love as He is in the Light, & we extend courtesy versus condemnation. I pray that we turn our focus from race to the Human Race, & that a renewed spirit of Patriotism sweeps the nation in the years to come, & that we really grasp what a privilege it is to be an American.

Thank you Father, for the American people that are sorrowful today, I ask that you reveal to them hope in the midst of a darkness that envelopes us and strives to divide us, & as it dissipates that we begin to see more clearly the True Call upon our people, & Your desire to mend the brokenhearted. Thank you for healing our land from this day forward.

I truly want the best for each & every one of you, & hope that the system that our forefathers put in place so long ago with wisdom proves once again to "Work for the People - By the People".

There is so much on the Horizon...Let's go Seize It!

KnightZer0ne
Tempered Outpost Founder

So you're saying that God, an almighty, all knowing, all caring and loving being, made Donald Trump, a racist, facist, sexist, anti-LGBT+ and so much more, the president of the United States? Because I'm seriously lost in your post otherwise.

Looking at the poll
On the top, or even at mine in the signature, is kinda impresive that have the people preffer the destruction of the system(i dont mean he is literally the distruction, but i mean he is quite opposite to any candidat of USA), and the other half corruption. The difference Is defined by less than one point. Ehhh, what happened there guys????

With all due respect and not saying this is what you are trying to say, but I get really tired of republicans trying to villainize democrats by using the term socialist to describe them and Bernie in particular. According to Webster and what I was taught the definition of socialism is "Socialism is defined as an economic theory, system or movement where the production and distribution of goods is done, owned and shared by the citizens of a society." And by owned and shared by the citizens being the government. I challenge anyone to tell me what it was that Bernie was saying that fits this definition. Sure, the republicans like to use the term "socialized medicine". A term they created to try to scare people. The rest of the world uses the term universal health care and all industrialized countries do it. Including Trump's beloved Putin and Russia. Other countries act dumbfounded when you say they have socialized medicine, because it's not socialized. What Bernie advocated and other countries do is have medical and hospital care for all at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health care and subsidies derived from taxation. Not even saying I agree with universal health care but it's not socialism.

If Bernie is what America considers 'far too Socialist ', that's sad. He's pretty centre right compared to what we get across the Atlantic. He just wanted to get America to where the rest of the West is at in terms of welfare state - thats not Socialism at all.

I'd hardly call Trump a 'Republican President'. He's gotten into office using them, but does not agree with them, and they don't agree with him. I still stand by my earlier statement that we're not going to see much change because of this. In fact, he called all of them idiots at one point and said if he was going to run for President he'd use Republicans because they're 'stupid'.

Unsure of what your point is here, to be honest. God didn't choose anyone to be President of the United States. People did, that's all that will ever happen, God doesn't come into this at all. He's supposed to be omniscient, omnibenevolent - why would he choose a fascist, racist, sexist, xenophobic, homophobic, Capitalist pig for a President? Your statements make no sense at all.

Also, Clinton won. She had a million more votes than Trump. If America were an actual democracy, we wouldn't be in this mess. And yes, I'll call it a mess, because that's exactly what it is - a mess. His domestic policy is a mess, the people who support Trump are generally quite a mess, his foreign policy is a mess, he's a mess, we're all a mess.

The biggest irony as shown in the Wikileaks e-mail dump being that it was her own collusion with DNC operatives which helped thwart Bernie's candidacy.

Their insistence on putting their collective thumbs on the scale during the primary may have ultimately cost Democrat power brokers the presidency.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/796213887133777920

"By biasing its internal electoral market the DNC selected the less competitive candidate defeating the purpose of running a primary."

Also can you Americans forward my request to Donald? I forgot I made it, but it'd still be nice if he could make himself a little more presentable for his new job.

I will say that based on what Trump has said on isolationist trading policy I would anticipate China, Japan and other countries that trade electronics with us will try to unload excess inventory before we increase tariffs. If anyone is considering buying a new TV, computer, etc... soon is probably going to be the time. The prices should go to big time lows and then when Trump changes trade policy/deals the prices of these items will skyrocket. Something to think about.

Hm...
I think I can see what you're getting at, but I don't really see it that way myself.
I think nfell has got a very good point:

Also:

This seems odd to me for 'The Spirit of God' to say.
For one: why America?
But moreover: the dollar will be strong? This feels very unnatural to me, when looking at Matthew 6:24.

yeah pretty much... God has a plan beyond the minds of mere mortals and people who voted Gary Johnson.... thanks for the vote from Trump guys!!!

No, he doesn't.

Your statement makes no sense either.

all I can say is PRAY I don't thaink God is opposed to America being rich I think He is opposed to use putting money ahead of him.... the pilgrims forsake being in a fairly good place in England to get religious freedom ... but when the settlers here became wealthy does that mean it is completely sinful? no rather we should honor God with our money and live in a way that is giving all the glory to Him. Thanks goodness Hilary isn't the president then we would be half socialist!

Well uhh...

Anyone know how I turn into a cabbage?

Let's bring this back to politics. There should be a clear separation between Church and State. Let's try to keep it that way.

What do you think Trump will do in his presidency?

I hate it when u quote me it is just to see how much u can get me to derail. I have decided that I will pray for u.

fix the stinking economy!!! or so I pray...
I also think he will work to try to have America get into the trade biz again

I think this election will help us Democrats revolutionize our party, because it doesn't seem that we were prepared for this election at all. (Also, we got all the polls wrong, which predicted that she'd win easily.)

Eh.
Ah, never mind, I doubt much good will come out of this thread anymore.
I think it's good Erektus is going to get it closed.