[Update] Misc bug fixes and dev update

Discussion in 'Empire Updates' started by chickeneer, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Sorry to bump this thread, but I've been looking into zoglins and I believe that they are impossible to find on EMC. You cannot egg hoglins because they are hostile and mobs can't go through portals on EMC, so...Am I missing anything? Has anyone ever tried?
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  2. They are impossible right now. I believe chicken said entity portal moving is going to be re-enabled, but it's not a simple fix to re-enable.
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  3. Technically incorrect - Mob arena converts them to zoglins after a period of time. Same with piglins (grumble grumble).
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  4. Well. It's not like you're going to get a zoglin head from MA, are you :p
  5. I've got to hit the next Mob Arena! It's been a long time for me!
  6. Buuuut, they are impossible in the waste/wild :p
  7. Not sure if this is a bug or intentional or has been covered before, (I couldn't find it)

    You cannot mail or vault a shulker box if it has a book and quill or written book inside the box. Plain books and enchanted books have no issue. You can take the written book out of the box and mail / vault each separately (1 slot for shulker and 1 slot for the book) but not if it's inside the shulker. I understand not being able to do maps but books can be moved to any SMP except if they are in a shulker box.

    Can this be fixed?
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  8. This is intentional behaviour. To try and explain it non-technically, books can have a lot of data stored within them. Books within shulkers causes the amount of data stored within them to rise very quickly. Why is this a problem? The amount of data that can be stored in the vault and mail is limited, because of constraints outside of EMC's control. If that amount were to get too high, well... say goodbye to your stuff.
    To summarise: if books were allowed in shulkers in the vault and mail, it might cause your or others' stuff to disappear. Luckily, this failsafe was put in place so that shouldn't be possible.
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  9. This is brilliant! Thank you so much for that knowledge! Makes total sense and I'm glad it's there even if it causes issues if you try to include an instruction guide inside a bundle package.
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  10. Hm, 1.14 increases the page limit in books, I wonder if they've redone the calculation. :p
    But from 50 to 100 pages is a factor 2 increase... allowing books in shulker boxes would be a factor 27 increase.
  11. I do know it is possible to just completely void a chunk with a data overflow. The problem is Chinese characters, which take up a lot more space. Something like 10 skulkers filled with books with a specific character repeated in some non-predictable fashion is able to crash the chunk and make it regenerate. I don't know how much data 5 skulkers with books could be, but I guess a lot. :p
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  12. The assessments made here on why the book/shulker vault limitations are in place, are accurate.

    A fun fact would be, that there was a period of time when vaults would have had a similar issue to vanilla's book overflow exploits of the past even without shulker boxes.
    That has since been patched to prevent such issues
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