How many holes does a straw have?

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous' started by Sande4, Jan 10, 2020.

  1. They are wormholes to parallel universes or timerifts that the doctor travels through to get to different time periods
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  2. Well I mean, this is when we get into issues with. English. xD Because yes, we would call that a hole but it's a different definition, we call it a 'hole' in the ground because that's the best way to describe it, but it's not a hole in an object. With a straw there's an object you can hold. The picture is definitely not a hole in the Earth, it's so tiny compared to the size of the earth it's insignificant, and yes, an indentation. In the case of digging in the dirt, hold and indentation are interchangeable linguistically. Imagine if you flatted out the walls, at what point does it become not a hold and just a low spot in the dirt? it would just be an 'indentation' at that point, just a low spot. But even then if there was a low spot in your lawn that occasionally collected the rail, you'd say 'ah there's a hole in the yard' but not 'there's a hole through the earth in the yard.' so. linguistically we have a different meaning.

    ... but yeah, that's a hole according to definition 1 from Hashhog. so yeah idk I'm just confused now
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  3. I feel like if you have a straw with one end closed, since the walls of the straw are narrower than the hole it's self you just have. a funny shaped bowl at that point. How many holes does a bowl have?
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  4. I suppose the intended answer is zero, which would indeed seem intuitive outside of the context of this discussion. Good one. ;)
  5. Yeah, the answer would be either be N/A or 0, because a straw doesn't have a hole... it's a cylinder...

    Imagine a deep hole. You'd call that... a hole. Imagine a steel cylinder. You wouldn't say that cylinder had two holes... you'd just say it was a cylinder and thats that.

    So the answer to this thread is neither 1 or 2. But really, the answer is undefined or N/A. Because a straw doesn't have "holes" because it is a cylinder. Make sense?

    It really comes down to your perspective.
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  6. Friendly reminder that this is exactly what your straw should be.
  7. Or... You can look at it from a quantumphisical perspective.

    As most people know matter as we know it doesn't exist in reality, as there really is only a such thing as a probability-distribution wave in a fourtimational spacetime contignuüm.
    This makes it such that you first have to destigush what the straw is, and what it isn't, as there is no logical way to say what is part of a thing and what isn't, and you have to messure all of the atoms in such a way you know what shape they are in.
    The problem with atoms is that they mostly don't exist: that is, to say, they largly are empty space, with only the smallest chance of having matter exist, not larger than in the "empty" parts of the straw anyway, which are filled with different atoms, which we destiguished to be not a part of the straw.
    Looking at it this way, the straw, in reality, is just neglegtebely small dots helt together via various force fields. There cannot be holes in this, as there is no such thing as a contitignuüs solid for a hole to exist in.
    This isn't solely true for straws, but for everything in your reality, meaning that the word "hole" is used incorrectly in all cases it is used, and it should be dropped from the English langue.

    Case closed. :p
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  8. Then why are the holes animals live in called holes? They don't go all the way through the earth. Why are the holes in swiss cheese called holes? In wheels or wedges they are bubbles of air.
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  9. This is the real controversial post^

    And what do you call openings again? Especially circular openings... Its on the tip of my tongue... starts with an h and ends with ole maybe?
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  10. With something like this we compare it more to surroundings than the earth. We have no way of visualizing the whole earth from its surface it's just too big to comprehend. If its surroundings are flat and the walls are steep it is a hole. If the walls were gradually sloping in it would be an indentation.
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  11. A cylinder is a geometric figure with straight parallel sides and a circular or oval cross section. Not an annular (ring shaped) cross section. Straws are not cylinders they are tubes with a significant resemblance to cylinders
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  12. Why would a straw be annular instead of a cylindrical?
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  13. So this is an indentation? :)

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  14. Compared to the size of the earth it's perhaps indeed an indentation... but for us it's definitely a hole I'd say indeed.

    I'm not sure. I think I'd say that a bowl does have one hole in it, otherwise it'd be a bawl, uh, ball (shaped thing). When it turns from a bowl without a hole into a bowl with a hole is difficult, but I'd say that would be when the sides start going inside again.
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  15. A mouth and a butt are fundamentally connected, through a long winding passage of tubes, and yet are considered different "holes."
    Therefore I put it to you all that straws have 2 holes, and humans are nothing but meat straws.

    Discuss.
  16. Where have you been this whole time? >:3
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  17. This made me laugh so hard my sister came in asking what was wrong
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  18. Hm, I hadn't thought of this yet! Good point. Although it is counterintuitive to think that while typing this, my arms aren't touching the table, nor are my fingers touching the keys. :confused:

    PS: I like your 'contitignuüs' spelling. Tremata/Diaereses are great! But I guess English pronunciation is already so inconsistent that dropping its use wasn't too much of a problem. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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  19. It would be naïve of you to think that... :rolleyes:
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  20. Except that (better :D) spelling is apparently so rare that it is underlined as incorrect by my browser. :$
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